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Wild Early 70s Hard Rock


Wild, not sure, but precise and classy through 'n' through. I saw The Ash in their prime, circa '72, and Ted & Andy could perform all of those amazingly snakey dual leads as well "live" as @ studio. The vocals suffered a tad, but who effin' cared? I've known a lot of dual lead (and even triple, re: Skynyrd) "attacks", but in my (listening @ the live setting) experience, the only "pair" who came "really" close to Ted and Andy were Tom and Richard, i.e., they of the band Television.

P.S. I give (very) high marks for "dual geetar attack" also to the fellers in the band Slayer.
 
Here's an obscure outfit: Mouzakis. The album: Magic Tube. Year of release: 1971. I have a couple copies of this LP, one of which is SS, IIRC....

 
It really stands out for its high quality, both of my reissues of this are well played for sure. Tempted to buy an original, spendy though.

Pricey indeed, probably ~ USD 400-500 for a very (very) clean original on the Stag label. Rob, considering this LP was bringing as much as USD 100 in the mid 1990s, $400, some 25 years later, for a very clean original ain' so bad. It's definitely among the "cooler" vinyl artifacts of the mid 1970s. Funny thing: I acquired my copy (only one copy, but in excellent or better "nick") in West Berlin (yes, that one), circa 1983. There was this guy in W. Berlin @ those days who had a "music shoppe" he operated outta his (pretty much) living room; place was loaded with boxes (and piles -- bad way to store vinyl inventory! -- of cool, obscure LPs (and some casettes) on small European and Brit labels -- nothin' Stones, The Who, Queen, etc., but material like this album of Pinnacle and other stuff by such bands as Paternoster, Necronomicon, Island, Comus, and (probably) that LP by Reaction that we're jonesin' to score. Anyway, thing set me back ~ USD 10, but that was circa '83, so it wasn't even a decade old. Come to think of it, USD 10 was a kinda high price for a album only 9 years old!
 
Pricey indeed, probably ~ USD 400-500 for a very (very) clean original on the Stag label. Rob, considering this LP was bringing as much as USD 100 in the mid 1990s, $400, some 25 years later, for a very clean original ain' so bad. It's definitely among the "cooler" vinyl artifacts of the mid 1970s. Funny thing: I acquired my copy (only one copy, but in excellent or better "nick") in West Berlin (yes, that one), circa 1983. There was this guy in W. Berlin @ those days who had a "music shoppe" he operated outta his (pretty much) living room; place was loaded with boxes (and piles -- bad way to store vinyl inventory! -- of cool, obscure LPs (and some casettes) on small European and Brit labels -- nothin' Stones, The Who, Queen, etc., but material like this album of Pinnacle and other stuff by such bands as Paternoster, Necronomicon, Island, Comus, and (probably) that LP by Reaction that we're jonesin' to score. Anyway, thing set me back ~ USD 10, but that was circa '83, so it wasn't even a decade old. Come to think of it, USD 10 was a kinda high price for a album only 9 years old!

Well in '83 I was spending $6-$8 for new tapes (hard for a kid of 13 to get that $) so that $10 seems reasonable!
Hopefully you bought that Paternoster! I made the mistake last year of not buying Necronomicon from a dealer I knew. Foolishly I did not have him set it aside. While I was thinking about it, it sold to someone else...
 
Well in '83 I was spending $6-$8 for new tapes (hard for a kid of 13 to get that $) so that $10 seems reasonable!
Hopefully you bought that Paternoster! I made the mistake last year of not buying Necronomicon from a dealer I knew. Foolishly I did not have him set it aside. While I was thinking about it, it sold to someone else...

I grabbed Paternoster, Necromicon, Comus, Island, Dark, Forever Amber, Mark Frye, and many more. The scary part was entrusting them to (first) Deutschepost and then -- the USPS. FedX, UPS weren't options and I didn't care to entrust them to anyone shipping (selves) back stateside. But they all arrived, at my folks, in one piece. Then my only concern: my father forgetting to bring in the parcel (it was summer IIRC) and me ending up with 25-30 warped, and pretty much unreplacable (in The States), LPs. But all ended well.
 
I grabbed Paternoster, Necromicon, Comus, Island, Dark, Forever Amber, Mark Frye, and many more. The scary part was entrusting them to (first) Deutschepost and then -- the USPS. FedX, UPS weren't options and I didn't care to entrust them to anyone shipping (selves) back stateside. But they all arrived, at my folks, in one piece. Then my only concern: my father forgetting to bring in the parcel (it was summer IIRC) and me ending up with 25-30 warped, and pretty much unreplacable (in The States), LPs. But all ended well.

What a freaking haul! Dark!!!!! Wow. Unreplaceable now without spending a lifetime and a small fortune to get them.
I do not know Island.
 
What a freaking haul! Dark!!!!! Wow. Unreplaceable now without spending a lifetime and a small fortune to get them.
I do not know Island.

Island were a Swiss outfit, pretty hard Prog, released on LP entitled Pictures (1977), cover artwork by H. Giger (yeah, The Alien-maker, also cover art for Brain Salad Surgery).

The full LP (below). Lemme know yer thoughts, this can be had (digitally) in lossless format...

 
Wild, not sure, but precise and classy through 'n' through. I saw The Ash in their prime, circa '72, and Ted & Andy could perform all of those amazingly snakey dual leads as well "live" as @ studio. The vocals suffered a tad, but who effin' cared? I've known a lot of dual lead (and even triple, re: Skynyrd) "attacks", but in my (listening @ the live setting) experience, the only "pair" who came "really" close to Ted and Andy were Tom and Richard, i.e., they of the band Television.

P.S. I give (very) high marks for "dual geetar attack" also to the fellers in the band Slayer.
What about Duane and Dickie from the Allman Brothers ? Din't you see them ?
 
What about Duane and Dickie from the Allman Brothers ? Din't you see them ?

Yes, and they weren't too shabby 'neither', and while their playin' style served their music well, there's somehitng less appealing to me about a twin-geetar "pairing" re: Blues & (especially) extended, imrpovisationally-directed Blues than Prog or, as in the case of Television, s.t. utterly unique. I'd say the same holds for (the real) Fleetwood Mac, i.e., that of Green, Kirwan, and Spencer. Great players and a nice blending of playin' techniques -- rhythm, "regular" lead, and slide -- but as it's based in Blues, less intriguing than other genres. For Great Blues, ya really only need a single geetar, e.g., Elmore James, and occasionally two, one which handles majority of rhythm & lead chore (e.g., Hubert Sumlin, Muddy Waters' bands), another for occasional slide (Howlin' Wolf, Muddy himself...). But that's how I hear it. There are those who swear by a 2-geetar attack featuring a "full-time" rhythm and a "full-time" lead, ala Grateful Dead, Humble Pie, Thin Lizzy, The Kinks, The Stones, and so many more. And then are the devotees of the "single geetar" forumulation, with some outstanding examples: Sabbath, (early) Clapton, Beck, (Eric) Johnson, (Roy) Buchanan, (Danny) Gatton, Zeppelin, Ten Years After, The Who (the tops @ this category pour moi, unless I'm in Metal mood, in which case it's Sabbath), Richard Thompson, ZZ Top, the list goes on & on & on...
 
Yes, and they weren't too shabby 'neither', and while their playin' style served their music well, there's somehitng less appealing to me about a twin-geetar "pairing" re: Blues & (especially) extended, imrpovisationally-directed Blues than Prog or, as in the case of Television, s.t. utterly unique. I'd say the same holds for (the real) Fleetwood Mac, i.e., that of Green, Kirwan, and Spencer. Great players and a nice blending of playin' techniques -- rhythm, "regular" lead, and slide -- but as it's based in Blues, less intriguing than other genres. For Great Blues, ya really only need a single geetar, e.g., Elmore James, and occasionally two, one which handles majority of rhythm & lead chore (e.g., Hubert Sumlin, Muddy Waters' bands), another for occasional slide (Howlin' Wolf, Muddy himself...). But that's how I hear it. There are those who swear by a 2-geetar attack featuring a "full-time" rhythm and a "full-time" lead, ala Grateful Dead, Humble Pie, Thin Lizzy, The Kinks, The Stones, and so many more. And then are the devotees of the "single geetar" forumulation, with some outstanding examples: Sabbath, (early) Clapton, Beck, (Eric) Johnson, (Roy) Buchanan, (Danny) Gatton, Zeppelin, Ten Years After, The Who (the tops @ this category pour moi, unless I'm in Metal mood, in which case it's Sabbath), Richard Thompson, ZZ Top, the list goes on & on & on...
It's interesting that you mention (early) Clapton as an outstanding example of the single geetar formula. On Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs, an uncredited Duane Allman is said to be quite prevalent. I certainly can't tell when it's Clapton, or Allman, playing. Perhaps my curioriosity will never be satisfied. To quote wikipedia; "In an interview, Allman told listeners how to tell who played what: Eric played the Fender parts and Duane played the Gibson parts. He continued by nonchalantly noting that the Fender had a sparklier sound, while the Gibson produced more of a "full-tilt screech".

:D

Maybe not 'hard' enough for this thread...but definite wild by Carson standards.

"wild stuff...simply...wild stuff"

.
 
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It's interesting that you mention (early) Clapton as an outstanding example of the single geetar formula. On Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs, an uncredited Duane Allman is said to be quite prevalent. I certainly can't tell when it's Clapton, or Allman, playing. Perhaps my curioriosity will never be satisfied. To quote wikipedia; "In an interview, Allman told listeners how to tell who played what: Eric played the Fender parts and Duane played the Gibson parts. He continued by nonchalantly noting that the Fender had a sparklier sound, while the Gibson produced more of a "full-tilt screech".

:D

Maybe not 'hard' enough for this thread...but definite wild by Carson standards.

"wild stuff...simply...wild stuff"

.

I had Cream and , re: D&TD, mainly "live" material, not the LP.
 
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