Windows update "service pack 3"
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whoaru99
Epic Member
Oops...
It crashed mine too..I wrote about it here in a previous thread...but that was way before it was part of automatic updates.
I had to reload from scratch so I feel your pain. It didn't cost me $90 cash, but it cost me plenty of my time which I probably would've valued at more than $90 to fix it.
It crashed mine too..I wrote about it here in a previous thread...but that was way before it was part of automatic updates.
I had to reload from scratch so I feel your pain. It didn't cost me $90 cash, but it cost me plenty of my time which I probably would've valued at more than $90 to fix it.
Brian
An Old Geezer
There are all kinds of flags out there as to NOT updating if you have an AMD machine. I updated my Intel machine before all the problems came out and had a hell of a scare as it was my business machine and it it went down it would be a major problem. It took all day to get booted in Safe Mode and to revert to an earlier operational level and then to remove the update. Between it and some other updates causing crashes lately, I sincerely think MS is doing its best to dissuade persons from continuing with XP. It is the first time that hardware manufacturers are resisting the move to the new system and I think it has put MS off balance. With the makers still offering XP on new machines and the word that Vista is no more than a a bridge system, MS has a marketing problem. They can shut down XP support and have a large unhappy group of customers and an opening for Linux to sneak in as an alternative.
I suspect MS may look at the lifespan of the computers that will not support XP and revise their XP support schedule and it may be longer than its support of Vista but, their 1st shot is to try to get the public to move from it.
I suspect MS may look at the lifespan of the computers that will not support XP and revise their XP support schedule and it may be longer than its support of Vista but, their 1st shot is to try to get the public to move from it.
cableguy
In Twang We Trust
I am of course letting off steam...losing the use of the computer for the weekend and then the cost to have it "repaired" still pisses me off to no end. It almost felt intentional in the sense that I could only boot up in safe mode, which disabled the restore functions as well as not allowing me to remove the updates. I tried several start up/DOS fixes as well and they all shut the system completely down....blue screen of death style. This acts like a first class nasty virus.
Bill
Bill
doucanoe
Registered Audio Abuser
That pile o' crap crashed my system twice trying to upload itself via "Automatic Updates" in my operating system. The second time it tried, it took the better part of 2 hours and then notified me that it didn't install properly. Also, That my operating system "May not" function properly because of it.
What pisses me off is that it didn't give me the option. Not even give me the option to select what updates I wanted.
After reading this, I have turned my "Automatic Update" function off.
RC
What pisses me off is that it didn't give me the option. Not even give me the option to select what updates I wanted.
After reading this, I have turned my "Automatic Update" function off.
RC
drknstrmyknight
Addicted Member
We're waiting at work - I've had to install one hotfix contained in SP3 to get WAP2-AES working on some wireless adaptors, otherwise we can live without it for the time being. Our tests show if you have all patches up to SP3 installed it's fairly safe, though we have no AMD boxes. YMMV
wajobu
Boing Boom Tschak
We have 6 office computers updated through our server. All have SP3 and no problems here--quite stable (knock on wood!).
We've had some trouble with a WSUS Service Pack a while back, but worked through it.
Sorry there Bill!
KingBubba
"Too Much Stuff"
I'm still using Win 2000 and will continue until I absolutely have to upgrade. I have and am using Win Server 2003 on one machine and am satisfied it will make a good choice for a next upgrade. My machines, even though they are 900mhz thinkpads, outperform most other people's laptops that I have used including my daughters 3.2 mhz machine with 1Gig of ram, running Vista.
I think if I had to use Vista, I would go insane. After my daughter's machine gets to the desktop you have to spend 3 or 4 minutes shutting off all the crap that wants to "help" and "protect" you. It is maddening.
I think if I had to use Vista, I would go insane. After my daughter's machine gets to the desktop you have to spend 3 or 4 minutes shutting off all the crap that wants to "help" and "protect" you. It is maddening.
Arkay
Lunatic Member
I only use manual updates, and adamantly refuse to install any MS update until I have researched what it actually does, and found it safe. If I have the slightest doubt, I don't install it.
There are solutions out there... Linux. Apple. How many of us have switched to Firefox instead of the MX browser? One day, Microsoft may become Ozymandius II, if they don't do a better job of making leaner, consumer-friendly products that work well.
There are solutions out there... Linux. Apple. How many of us have switched to Firefox instead of the MX browser? One day, Microsoft may become Ozymandius II, if they don't do a better job of making leaner, consumer-friendly products that work well.
drknstrmyknight
Addicted Member
I'm waiting for the day someone highjacks Windoze Updates and we wake up wondering
"Where are we going, and why am I in this handbasket?"
"Where are we going, and why am I in this handbasket?"
VinylHanger
Navigaret ex ironia
My problem is that I can't fork out 150 bucks to buy something that my system already does, run my computer. That's like 20 percent of what I paid for my system in the first place. Now they think people will just fork over that kind of money because they say the new system is better. XP is great, no problems whatsoever, why switch. If they came up with a full functioning operating system for 50 bucks, I woud be tempted.
ponderbear
waltzing with sin
The market at large is resisting it. I have worked in two large environments (I just changed jobs in the past six months) that simply will NOT adopt Vista. It's not for trying: no systems that we've had will support it, so all hardware would have to be replaced. Thanks to harder economic times, replacement cycles are slipping from three-year to four and five year to..? So where does that leave a shop with budget problems? With XP, that's where.
MS will probably regret it in the end, as we are just at the beginning of a period of exponential growth of new computers that offer Linux as an alternative. This could be a disastrous time for them to push a big chunk of their customers over the edge.
Now that I think of it, as a Mac user, I wholeheartedly support their strategy
Brian
An Old Geezer
I agree and that s why I suspect in the end MS will extend the XP support and and continue to release updates, hopefully not as bug ridden as SP3. If not, then it will provide a large population of computers that are not obsolete from a practical point that Linux can be mounted on to stay up to date.
A company in my complex that just opened bought a system using Vista and after more than a month of banging their heads that was deflecting from their business purpose in a weekend stripped the computers of Windows and mounts Redhat Linux on some machings and Suse on others. Not sure the why of using 2 versions. They were up and running over a weekend. Some of the employees raised on Office besides having so many problems were ripping their hair on the new Office 2007 interface and seem in less than a day to have become acclimated to OpenOffice. Not sure what flavor they are using. The contact manager, Evolution appears to have taken no time to learn. Their bookkeeper and accountant have been going through GNucash to set it up and learn how it works. I'm answering some questions as to it and giving some heads up as to some weaknesses it has as I used it last year for my business to see how it would work.
Before making the move, one of the persons did borrow my dual boot laptop with OpenSuse and played with the Linux and apps that I have mounted.
I did ask why they did not mount XP and the response was that when the option was discussed with the company who supplied the computers they said that the support cycle was ending and they could not supply licenses so they'd need to go find and buy the systems and soon there would be no support.
A company in my complex that just opened bought a system using Vista and after more than a month of banging their heads that was deflecting from their business purpose in a weekend stripped the computers of Windows and mounts Redhat Linux on some machings and Suse on others. Not sure the why of using 2 versions. They were up and running over a weekend. Some of the employees raised on Office besides having so many problems were ripping their hair on the new Office 2007 interface and seem in less than a day to have become acclimated to OpenOffice. Not sure what flavor they are using. The contact manager, Evolution appears to have taken no time to learn. Their bookkeeper and accountant have been going through GNucash to set it up and learn how it works. I'm answering some questions as to it and giving some heads up as to some weaknesses it has as I used it last year for my business to see how it would work.
Before making the move, one of the persons did borrow my dual boot laptop with OpenSuse and played with the Linux and apps that I have mounted.
I did ask why they did not mount XP and the response was that when the option was discussed with the company who supplied the computers they said that the support cycle was ending and they could not supply licenses so they'd need to go find and buy the systems and soon there would be no support.
macca_dj
BLIND IN BOTH EARS
I have had no problems with XP SP3
Before i do any updating i cleanout all the junk files defrag the system, and then use ( acronis true image ) and do a complete operating system backup to my second hdd's,
and then if i find that something is not working i stick the acronis rescue disc in to the cd drive and then do a boot time rescue all back and good within 5 minutes..
Absolute must have programme a good backup system, lots out there but acronis true image is so far the one i like the most simple interface and quick
Before i do any updating i cleanout all the junk files defrag the system, and then use ( acronis true image ) and do a complete operating system backup to my second hdd's,
and then if i find that something is not working i stick the acronis rescue disc in to the cd drive and then do a boot time rescue all back and good within 5 minutes..
Absolute must have programme a good backup system, lots out there but acronis true image is so far the one i like the most simple interface and quick
AnalogDigit
Realistic fan.
I'm running Windows 2000 professional still on my desktop and my laptop. No problems and I continue getting updates from Microsoft. I don't care about XP or Vista. If I want new hardware or software, I buy off of eBay since Best Buy sells only hardware and software supporting Vista and XP. I recently purchase an older version of Dazzle video capture and it works fine. I'm transferring some of my Beta tapes when I taped some of the 1985 Chicago Bears games and put them onto DVD.
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