Wolfson vs Beats, sad story.

[Gang-Twanger]

Seriously?

You are expressing incredulity at the notion of people making knockoffs of one of the most desired items on the market, esp one that are primarily marketed towards kids that don't know any better?

???

I'd think that Beats would be one of the very most likely to have knockoffs made in their likeness.

Yeah, I know... It's just that it seems like we're heading in the opposite direction, as if the knockoff is now the expensive item that everybody lusts over, you know? ... Like Hong Kong going global, which I guess technically happened way back in the '70's.

Korean manufacturing is very-good these days... I look for Korean-made CD's, and their electric guitars are awesome these days, and I'm speaking of knock-offs of Gibson Les Pauls, which became legal again after Gibson lost their lawsuit with Paul Reed Smith over the PRS Singlecut... And there are some real artists in the Chinese manufacturing industry, as well as a lot of great small business manufacturers over there, but the ones that worry me are the ones banging out computers, cellphones, and a zillion other things, all made with that cheap new plastic that all the major manufacturers are using now that feels like it's gonna' break in your hands (That stuff that makes noise when your hands touch it). It's not a problem with any specific country. It's merely a corporate problem.

 

[Pio1980]

Certain pocket radios in the 1950s thu the mid 1960s were made with thin brittle plastic cases.

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[cratz2]

Yeah, I know... It's just that it seems like we're heading in the opposite direction, as if the knockoff is now the expensive item that everybody lusts over, you know? ... Like Hong Kong going global, which I guess technically happened way back in the '70's.

Korean manufacturing is very-good these days... I look for Korean-made CD's, and their electric guitars are awesome these days, and I'm speaking of knock-offs of Gibson Les Pauls, which became legal again after Gibson lost their lawsuit with Paul Reed Smith over the PRS Singlecut... And there are some real artists in the Chinese manufacturing industry, as well as a lot of great small business manufacturers over there, but the ones that worry me are the ones banging out computers, cellphones, and a zillion other things, all made with that cheap new plastic that all the major manufacturers are using now that feels like it's gonna' break in your hands (That stuff that makes noise when your hands touch it). It's not a problem with any specific country. It's merely a corporate problem.

Completely agree.

 

[rnorton]

Seriously?

You are expressing incredulity at the notion of people making knockoffs of one of the most desired items on the market, esp one that are primarily marketed towards kids that don't know any better?

???

I'd think that Beats would be one of the very most likely to have knockoffs made in their likeness.

The knockoffs are probably better. I don't see how they could be worse.

 

[rnorton]

Completely agree.

My Korean Gretsch Corvette is better in almost every way than the US made originals.

 

[30hz MAGIC]

Sorry, my friend.

Most people dont care about sound as much as we do...

I personally think Beats are ok headphones. You do end up paying a premium for style and the name however.

 

[HTWillie]

The knockoffs are probably better. I don't see how they could be worse.

I was gonna say earlier - calling them knockoffs implies they're of inferior quality than the original.

Most anyone with experience manufacturing overseas can tell you that knockoff goods come in many grades. The cheapest is the not-fooling-anyone grade, then comes the maybe-from-across-the-room grade. After that are the items that look good up close but give themselves away when you touch them.

The best knockoffs are indistinguishable from the real McCoy, as they're made on the same assembly lines as the originals, with the same lots of materials and the same labor.

 

[cratz2]

My Korean Gretsch Corvette is better in almost every way than the US made originals.

Yep. I'm a strat guy but all of my LP/SG/Double Cut type guitars are made in Korea. A few Ibanez, couple Epiphones and a Gretsch.

 

[uofmtiger]

I was gonna say earlier - calling them knockoffs implies they're of inferior quality than the original.

Try telling a kid that wanted a pair of Beats that his birthday present says Beats on it, but it is actually made by someone else and they slapped a Beats logo on it for him. Then tell him he will enjoy the sound more. I can tell you he won't be happy.

The point is that when you buy a product that has a logo on it, you expect that it is made by the company with the trademark for that logo. Wiki definition:

"Counterfeit consumer goods (knock-offs in colloquial language) are by legal definition goods infringing the rights of a trade mark holder by displaying a trade mark which is either identical to a protected trade mark or by using an identification mark which "cannot be distinguished in its essential aspects from such trade mark".

Nothing is mentioned about the quality of the counterfeit good.

 

[djnagle]

Beats took their marketing ques from Bose.

 

[HTWillie]

Try telling a kid that wanted a pair of Beats that his birthday present says Beats on it, but it is actually made by someone else and they slapped a Beats logo on it for him./QUOTE]

I totally agree. The point I was making is that the best knock-offs or counterfeit goods are indistinguishable from the originals.

The only clues might be the extra good price and the place of purchase. In my area there's a guy who has multiple ads on Craigslist for the same new items for months on end. I don't think he shoplifts them one by one from local retailers. I suspect he bought a few pallets from an illegitimate market.

 

[aidynphoenix]

you're looking at it from the wrong perspective. the beats are a fad, its a fashion accessory. i am proud that i know better, and that i don't overpay for mediocre.
thats what makes us the cool kids.