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Wood Glue as Vinyl Cleaner

hmmm did a couple on a noisy test records and i cant really say i discern that much of a difference.. i guess it was asking too much to fix something thats probably been worn/damaged.

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forgot to take a picture of it while peeling and after the peel. but suffice to say it came off in one piece with no problems. just used my fingernail to pry a piece from the edge. i did the peel after cleaning it with soap and water (sink) and letting it dry. i didnt have a beater TT so i did it the hard way which isnt actually too hard if done with some care.

NB: took about 8 hours to dry clear. but i left it even longer just in case.

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asmd, it looks like you put it on fairly thick. It'll dry faster and be just as effective if you use just a little less. Not TOO much less, too thin and it is hard to peel.

IME, glue works wonders on some records, and it does nothing on others. Very hard to know.
 
My first post guys so please be kind to my suggestion here: FAN ASSISTED OVEN
I love glue cleaning and really prefer it over any other method but like many here it's the drying time that is the major down. I just want to hear the result and hate waiting hours! This may seem mad but my FAN ASSISTED OVEN has the facility to just have the fan on with no real heat to speak of, well it's like a warm breeze and dries the record in an hour! No warping!! I let it cool then peel it off. I'm off to bake some more right now. I place the glued lp on a circular wooden chopping board.
 
TobascoKid said:
Elmer's Carpenter's Wood Glue. Marked "Interior."
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Have you also tried the Titebond II? If so any difference noted? I tried the TB II on one contaminated record and after the glue it still builds up some crud on the stylus after playing a side. Plays nice and quiet now though. I've washed and glued that record. I think I'd like to find a more aggressive glue.
 
In the mean-time, I've resurrected a couple of reall nasty 99¢ LPs that were near perfect under all the fingerprints and dirt. Terrible static, pops and clicks, especially around the outer edge where people tend to pinch the record between their fingers taking it out of the sleeve.

First step was to clean off all the loose debris with my Discwasher.

Then I sprayed side 1 of the record with alcohol based no ammonia Sprayway Glass Cleaner and scrubbed it in both directions with a Mobile Fidelity record brush to loosen up the oil and dirt.

Then I rinsed under running tap water before the glass cleaner dried.

Pat dry with Bounty paper towels (zero lint and won't scratch plastics), and finish off the drying with the Discwasher while the record spins on the turntable.

Sounds like a new record now! Then did side two and it also came out perfect. Takes less than 10 minutes. Might save some glue on this one.
 
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I've had a run of bad luck getting new 45 rpm jazz reissues, that are extremely noisy right out of the sleeve. I've returned some, but hate having to pay another $10 on top of the already hefty price tag, just to get a replacement. Is it possible there is junk in the grooves that would be cleaned out with glue? I know it's absurd to have to do this to a brand new, ultra-expensive album, but if it worked I'd try it on the lousy ones I kept. I think a lot of people know the kind of noisy vinyl I'm talking about -- anyone tried glue on these?
 
Have you tried cleaning those noisy records with other methods? I have found new records are mostly noisy and need to be cleaned. Glue works but I find detergent and water to be more efficient and effective.
 
I tried Elmer's Glue All and followed the procedures. The glue peeled off, but I think it left a resin in the grooves because it is noisier and my record player is not tracking it as well as it was.

Would wood glue fix this problem?
 
I tried the glue method and I'm happy with the results BUT I'm having a hard time trying to get off some leftover glue from around the label and on the edges of records (Where the glue is just too thin to come off with the main piece).

Does anyone have any tricks of getting this stuff off?

I'm thinking of just doing the "paint brush + Dawn" thing to get it off.
 
soma89 said:
I tried the glue method and I'm happy with the results BUT I'm having a hard time trying to get off some leftover glue from around the label and on the edges of records (Where the glue is just too thin to come off with the main piece).

Does anyone have any tricks of getting this stuff off?

I'm thinking of just doing the "paint brush + Dawn" thing to get it off.
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You don't need to get the glue near the label, just past the recorded material grooves. It the glue is too thin, it can shred and leave bits behind. I recommend using TiteBond II only (if available). The results seem the most consistent.

Masking tape will pick off the shards.
 
soma89 said:
I tried the glue method and I'm happy with the results BUT I'm having a hard time trying to get off some leftover glue from around the label and on the edges of records (Where the glue is just too thin to come off with the main piece).
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First record I glued, I had that problem too. Used a toothpick to gently loosen the remaining bits and blew off with air, but the masking tape sounds easier. Next couple I did I made sure to get a smooth thick enough coating around the edge and up next to the label. Came off clean. Just a matter of perfecting your technique.
 
cassettetdk said:
I tried Elmer's Glue All and followed the procedures. The glue peeled off, but I think it left a resin in the grooves because it is noisier and my record player is not tracking it as well as it was.

Would wood glue fix this problem?
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Nobody's answered you yet?!?

I've never had this problem myself. I think I've tried Elmer's Glue All, and I think its (successful) use has been discussed way back in the thread.

I'd try regluing it with Titebond II. These glues have a great affinity for themselves, any residue from the Elmer's should bond tightly to the Titebond and come off.

Is the residue visible at all? You might try a simple soap and water wash at this point too.
 
dynastax said:
Glue works but I find detergent and water to be more efficient and effective.
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Agreed. Try the dawn/alcohol/distilled water and a very soft brush first, or an RCM. If there are still issues, the glue method may help after that.

I tried it on about a dozen LPs, including a BB King album that I was hoping would come out better. The glue helped, but didn't do as much as a good wet cleaning.
 
The best way IMO to use the Wood Glue trick is also use the RCM after peeling off the glue. I use my VPI 16.5 about five times per side to get rid of any left-over glue on the grooves. So far this procedure is doing wonders for me. Currently gluing two LPs as we speak!
 
I tried the process using contractors PVA (buy it by the gallon = -£).
It did improve the disc by reducing the level of background/surface noise but only by about 30% at the worst parts.

I then tried somthing a bit novel (by that I mean Stupid). I Got the presure washer out of the garage and gave the disc a good blast at close range, nozzle only about 2" from vinyl. Dried it then played again. Further reduced noise, worst parts now down to about 50% of original level. Where there was only light noise, in many areas, this has gone completely. Overall this disc is now a reasonable listen and the worst noise is lower than on a "Back to Black" brand new pressing. It was the same title (Tubular Bells). I was major disapointed in the BTB version sounded squashed in comparison to my original copy, also covered in what looked like mould release agent. Has scratches and finger marks etc as it came out of the packet, shrink wrapped around the sleeve/jacket so not handled away from the factory. Of the two, I would rather listen to the cleaned disc and it was pretty bad before cleaning.

Anyone else tried presure washing Vinyl?

The disc I used was sacrificial, the lebel got wet but dried out ok. I've worked out how to protect the label for future attempts.
 
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