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X-101-B....Rarer than Hens teeth?? ANYONE got a MANUAL????

larryderouin

larryderouin

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Just bought BATTRADIO's X-101-B. Pic's and descriptions at link. http://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/fisher-model-x-101b.724460/ Looks to be in good shape, and was re-capped in '02. The asking price was just over what I had budgeted for an integrated, so I got it for a fair piece less without tubes. Mark is great to work with. I got a 15" Jensen Co-AX driver from him a few years ago for my WR-11 Coronet and it works great in it.

Missing most of the Knob Brights, and it's dusty, and dirty from storage, but overall it looks good.

Now I have a dedicated amp/integrated for my 101-R, FM-50 and 80-R/T tuners and my MPX-100's.

It'll get the usual upgrades, cathode resistors, screen stab resistors, plus I'll go thru t all to make sure it's up to snuff.

1st thing is to get a copy of the manuals and study them. I already know it's cathode biased, so that's no problem. The problem I'm having is this X-101-B is Tube Rectified and the schematics that purport to be X-101-B's are showing S.S. rectified. I get this funny feeling (hair on back of neck standing up) that these "x101-B" scat's floating around, are actually for a X-101-C model.

I'll get some new pics up when it arrives.
 
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Interesting about the rectifier tube, nice grab though Larry, look forward to your rebuild on it.
 
Funny how much that looks like my EL84 based X100, but uses 7591's, has a headphone jack + speaker on - off switch added. and "dimension" balance instead of regular balance - oh, and the switch locations for high and low filer are reversed. Fisher got a lot of mileage out of their designs.
 
That was probably more about consistent looks across the model lines vs just being cheap and not re-designing the faceplate. I'm sure that probably was something of a factor too though.
 
I think it was more like FISHER having a House look where you could at a glance ID a FISHER from any other brand. If you look at the amps, tuners, integrateds, and ancillary gear from the 50's they all had a certain look. Then they went with the thick extruded aluminum Front plate with the advent of the 500-800B, and the x100b, x101b, and kept that look up thru the '65 model year. In 65 they changed the front plate again to a 2 section with a dividing strip in the middle and a border, the switches also changed from a slide switch to a Rocker switch(usually a dark red/brown). This stayed all the way up thru 1972, when they changed again to the FUTURA type (EMERSON Version).

1.) you can ID Each group as a FISHER
2.) You can tell what era (Late 50's/Early 60's; Early mid 60's thru late mid 60's, and Late 60's.
3.) With the Late 60's group you could sometimes just look at the front plate and tell whether it was tubed or S.S. but not often for the non receivers.

The following are respresentative for their era's.

House Look Mid 50's thru 1961 model year.

1956 or so......80-T
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1960 Tuners and Receivers with AM/FM Simulcast stereo. (101-R Shown)
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Early 60's to Late Mid 60's. (800-C shown)
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Receivers from 1965 model year to about 1971. (700-T shown) The 250-TX carried this styling until 1974.
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Integrated and amplifiers (Both tube and Solid State) were in this style from 1965 to about 1971. TX-100 shown
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So basically it boils down to 3 basic House Styles for the period of 1953/54 to approx 1970. Each component type had it's own little styling cues, but the basic overall designs were the same across the whole line.

The consoles followed the standalones generally, but in 1967 veered off from what they had been when FISHER took (with the Exception of the president in 1967) and produced consoles with receivers in them instead of the standard 2 chassis setup in the tube era. The president carried over the multiple chassis setup for another year and finally went with Receivers in 1969 by the use of the 500-TX. The faceplates went from the thin brass faceplates, to an aluminum extrusion in 1965 for most consoles
 

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I ordered a Manual from Rick Stout at Stereomanuals.com. should be here in the next few days.
This is one of those rare one's that needs to be preserved so it'll get a place on FISHERCONSOLES.

Steve; Battradio overhauled it in 02, and didn't get much play time. So I'll go thru it and refresh as needed, and add some sorely needed upgrades. Shoudl keep me busy for a few days. ;)

Matt; The Balance pot is a 250K (front) for balance, and 1meg (back) for blend or dimension.

I also noticed that it has a 9 pin socket for a remote control (RK-30??) which was a remote dual channel volume pot. But it's been disconnected. Should be fairly easy to re-connect. The plug is attached and intact.

Larry
 
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Thanks DAVE. Now if I could get hold of a 100B or a 200B I could modify my 65 FUTURA.:naughty: I think the wood panel for the chassis is large enough. But the Executive is staying the way it was built.:beatnik:
 
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Well, since just about every Fisher made could be had in a console, either factory or custom, doesn't that make this a forum for console amps? :)
 
Larry, on the auction site there is a FM200.....not the prettiest but it's there. Also a console that's block long and has a FM200B with a X202B Companion speaker on both sides.. That will get him going folks! :naughty::rflmao:
 
You can fit only so many consoles (even with stacking) in a 1100 sqft ranch. I'm outta room! Unless someone wants to donate a 4000 sqft house to put it all in. :eek::confused:
 
larryderouin said:
You can fit only so many consoles (even with stacking) in a 1100 sqft ranch. I'm outta room! Unless someone wants to donate a 4000 sqft house to put it all in. :eek::confused:
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Just add a basement and create a mad scientists lab like someone else we know. ;)
 
That basement is like a ship (TARGET!) with a torpedo Hole in the hull. Water in the People tank is not a condition conducive to life! Local Damage control can handle the flooding but if the power is lost, all bets are off! USGS and or NOAA did a Ground Radar survey of the area I live in about 10 years ago. My street (all of 2 blocks long) has a DOCUMENTED subterranean spring count of 192 of them between 6ft and 9 ft under grade. It's no wonder damn near every house on this street has at least 3 pumps and they are running 24/7/365! I'd love to get hold of the SOB who decided this would be a good area to put up houses (and it is) WITH BASEMENTS!
The gal 2 houses up from me has a crawl space 2 ft under grade and her pump runs constantly. Replaced her's twice in the last 35 years.

If I had the $$$$, I'd build a 3 car garage with a walkup attic to store the stuff in the basement, put an addition on the house for mechanicals, then fill in the basement leaving a 2ft crawlspace. Or just move and let someone else deal with the water.
 
I don't have springs here, but I'm basically sitting at sea level with a sea a rock's throw from my front door. Stick a shovel in the ground and it will overflow. The house doesn't even have a crawl space. Its also built on "high ground", maybe at most 2 feet higher than the rest of the yard. You'd swear Moses lived here the way the water just parts around the place in a heavy storm. Its perhaps the only thing they got right when they built this place.
 
Very nice integrated Larry. Don't see many X-101-B's around.
Are you going to put her in a console or stuff her in a cabinet? :naughty:
 
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