Ok, you know i did have trouble getting the lock to unlock when I first tried it out, the guy gave me specific directions about how to open the tray if it "sticks", he says it is a logic problem, I totally disagree. I know it is mechanical. I will play around with it, but you know how intermittant glitches can be,...intermittant! Audio CDR's work!! They play great. I burnt the same data at 24x then 6x neither played well, the 6x played better though. I then recorded on an audio CDR, presto! we have perfect playback. Awsome as I listen to a lot of homebrews. This player puts out glorious sound, I cannot believe it, it is rich and full sound. A surprise to me for sure. I was not expecting this much difference.
Yamaha cdx?
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Ah, yes.....another satisfied Yamaha vintge customer. :thmbsp:
Would be interested in knowing which "really good newer units" you might suggest?goldear said:
the-real-mandak
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goldear said:
You mean; Welcome to the light, young Jedi! :yes:
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goldear
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Ok, since you guys keep asking what I think sounds better, I'll give you a couple of examples which I own.
The unit that made me finally retire my venerable Yamaha was a CAL Alpha DAC, used in combination with my CAL Delta Transport. I still have these units, and they embarrass my old Yamaha 1100u pretty much every regard. :yes:
And the unit that is keeping me from prowering up my CAL very often these days is a VSE modified Sony SCD-C333ES, with a few of my own special tweaks added. It is simply incredible sounding! :thmbsp: This unit when playing SACDs can even sound better than my Linn LP-12, ET-2, Monster Alpha genesis 1000, Kylne SK2, CJ, combo in many ways; and that is saying something! :yes:
However in its stock form, this Sony is really nothing special sonically IMO. I would actually chose the Yamaha 1100u for sound over this Sony in its stock form. But when modified, well that is an entirely different story. :thmbsp:
The unit that made me finally retire my venerable Yamaha was a CAL Alpha DAC, used in combination with my CAL Delta Transport. I still have these units, and they embarrass my old Yamaha 1100u pretty much every regard. :yes:
And the unit that is keeping me from prowering up my CAL very often these days is a VSE modified Sony SCD-C333ES, with a few of my own special tweaks added. It is simply incredible sounding! :thmbsp: This unit when playing SACDs can even sound better than my Linn LP-12, ET-2, Monster Alpha genesis 1000, Kylne SK2, CJ, combo in many ways; and that is saying something! :yes:
However in its stock form, this Sony is really nothing special sonically IMO. I would actually chose the Yamaha 1100u for sound over this Sony in its stock form. But when modified, well that is an entirely different story. :thmbsp:
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Yep. :thmbsp: Mine looks exactly like the one on top. The CDX-2020 end panels look rather odd, being squared off while the front of the unit is not. Once you have completed the part-by-part comparison, let us know what the differences are.the-real-mandak said:B-2 just fore you
Goldear - I owned the CAL CL-10(?) for a couple of years and enjoyed its HDCD capabilities. However, it was not significantly better than the Yamaha CDX-1100/1110/1120/2020 to my ears. And, was significantly more expensive and not nearly as well built. Same with your options on the quality/price front. But, the SACD ability of the Sony is nice. Am forced to use another unit for that purpose.
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B-2 it is not my picture, I just stumbled upon it on the German epay. There is a guy who sells a CDX-1120U (the one on top). It was meant for you to compare the units, as he stats the 2020 is titanium-gold and the 1120 is titanium-silver. Except that, he wrights that they are the same, on the other hand he is full of b...... about comparing it to the CDX-10000 and 5000. He even states that it was part of the 100 year celebration (as I know it the CDX-1120 was marketed in 1989, 2 years after the celebration). But it does fit into or theory.
here is the link to the auktion (more pic's): http://cgi.ebay.de/Highend-Bolide-Y...618792772QQcategoryZ14917QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
here is the link to the auktion (more pic's): http://cgi.ebay.de/Highend-Bolide-Y...618792772QQcategoryZ14917QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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goldear
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The CL-10 is a good unit, but it does not have the magical life-giving tubes output stage of the Alpha. This makes a significant difference. :yes: I would not have expected that particular CAL to trounce the Yamaha the way that my Alpha does.Yamaha B-2 said:
And SACD is an absolutely wonderful format. It sounds so good on my modifed Sony, that I rarely feel inclined to power-up my Alpha very much anymore.
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Oh my gawd!?! Tubes! In the Vintage Solid-State forum, no less. 
Talk about blasphemy. They'll get my transistors when they pry them out of my cold, dead hands......... Come on....tubes died in the '60s. Just like vinyl did in the early '80s and analog FM will once HD takes over sometime this millenium. :yes: Huh? Wait a minute. :scratch2: What do I listen to? 50% FM, 30% vinyl and 20% digital. Hmmmmm........maybe I'll have to think about some tubes, too. Seriously, I would like to listen to something like your CAL rig. Am planning on a BAT tube preamp for Xmas (always best to get the best gift for oneself ).
Talk about blasphemy. They'll get my transistors when they pry them out of my cold, dead hands......... Come on....tubes died in the '60s. Just like vinyl did in the early '80s and analog FM will once HD takes over sometime this millenium. :yes: Huh? Wait a minute. :scratch2: What do I listen to? 50% FM, 30% vinyl and 20% digital. Hmmmmm........maybe I'll have to think about some tubes, too. Seriously, I would like to listen to something like your CAL rig. Am planning on a BAT tube preamp for Xmas (always best to get the best gift for oneself ).
Goldear and Yamaha B-2, I had hopes that this addiction might have an end. Apparently, it does not.
Just scored a mint pair of Sansui SP-2500 speakers. Heh heh heh. 25 bucks. Yep, bout to start a cockadoodle thread (you know, crowing?)
Just scored a mint pair of Sansui SP-2500 speakers. Heh heh heh. 25 bucks. Yep, bout to start a cockadoodle thread (you know, crowing?)
the-real-mandak
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I got my CDX-993 to day, another 10kg of the Yamaha sound.
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It's not hooked up yet, I will do tomorrow. Only problem is that I moved my CX-1000 to the computer setup, that one is good to do AB testing on (remote). Maybe I have to move it back just for the test, then I can test the analogue and compare it to the converter in the CX-1000 (PCM-58).
Payed: $ 163 incl. transport.
Payed: $ 163 incl. transport.
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the-real-mandak
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Well who can wait that long, just hooked it up here at work. Connected it to a pair of Genelec 1029A thru a small TAPCO 6309 mixer. And it sounds good, nice bass, high mid was a little sharp (might be the Genelec's). But I need to hook it up in my main setup fore a real test.
One thing, the CD draw... That is one of the crappiest plastic things I have seen in a long time. Compared to the CDX-880 and 870 it is just not good, I don't even want to mention my CDX-1060. Now I do know why the 993 is 9,6kg and the 1060 10kg. Lucky the draw is not part of the sound.
One thing, the CD draw... That is one of the crappiest plastic things I have seen in a long time. Compared to the CDX-880 and 870 it is just not good, I don't even want to mention my CDX-1060. Now I do know why the 993 is 9,6kg and the 1060 10kg. Lucky the draw is not part of the sound.
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It will be a little time but i will
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Cdx-993
Ok, a little update on the draw thing, I made a few pictures showing the difference. First said, the draw of the CDX-993 does operate nice and quite. But then when you compare to other models, then it do look cheep and fragile. The CDX-993 was Yamaha’s TOTL in 1993 so it is a little less than one would expect. Compare it with the CDX-1060; the TOTL of 1992 witch draw is made of cast aluminum and heavy rubber for the CD’s. Even compared to the much cheaper CDX-880 and 870 (CDX-870 also 1993), the draw looks bad. Those still had some fabric protecting the CD from the plastic of the draw, preventing scratches. As being the last of the “big” Yamaha CD players, it is easy to see that the company focused even more on the economics cutting down where ever it was possible. The only good thing is that it is not the draw that makes the sound and that I will get back to later.
Ok, a little update on the draw thing, I made a few pictures showing the difference. First said, the draw of the CDX-993 does operate nice and quite. But then when you compare to other models, then it do look cheep and fragile. The CDX-993 was Yamaha’s TOTL in 1993 so it is a little less than one would expect. Compare it with the CDX-1060; the TOTL of 1992 witch draw is made of cast aluminum and heavy rubber for the CD’s. Even compared to the much cheaper CDX-880 and 870 (CDX-870 also 1993), the draw looks bad. Those still had some fabric protecting the CD from the plastic of the draw, preventing scratches. As being the last of the “big” Yamaha CD players, it is easy to see that the company focused even more on the economics cutting down where ever it was possible. The only good thing is that it is not the draw that makes the sound and that I will get back to later.
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