2017/18 Nissan Rogue...to buy or not to buy?

[Cactus Bob]

Hyundai/Kia make some of the most dependable cars out there. I have a 2006 Hyundai Sonata GLS V6 that I bought new. 13 years later and 125k it runs like new. The only thing I ever had to do other than maintenance items was replace the upper control arms (bushings wore out) and new struts and plan on keeping it for many more years. Bought my first car in '72 and this car is one of the best quality autos I have owned. I owned a 2003 Elantra before this and liked it but I wanted a larger car.

 

[Redikilowatt]

I'm not so sure about Honda anymore. My dad has a 2013 Accord and he had to replace the starter at 50K. At 55K, he has to fix the parking brake. The latter is a bit minor but the starter isn't.

The starter problem on 2013-2015 Accords is regretfully common. There may be a class action lawsuit in the works. My friend’s 2013 had it and my 2015 is exhibiting early signs

 

[Quadman2]

Stopped in at the local Hyundai...and they have only the one 2018 left...for $29k. No other years left.

Was wanting a 2017, for affordability but the sales-type said they go as soon as they come in. Usually as trades ins.

I really want to go the Sube route as I know the quality/reliablity is there, even though they don't have all the bells and whistles that the rest do... but have to keep in mind the happy SO equation.

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[Shadowdog]

Maybe look at the new Ford Explorer which has gone back to RWD based making it handle better, tow better and be easier to service and repair.

This should help insurance costs also.

 

[Quadman2]

Maybe look at the new Ford Explorer which has gone back to RWD based making it handle better, tow better and be easier to service and repair.

This should help insurance costs also.

 

[Quadman2]

Well looks like the SO wins out on this one. I just happened to be in the showroom of a Nissan dealer, a couple of car companies down from Subaru (getting some air bag warranty stuff done on the Impreza)) when a 2017 AWD Rogue came in. It hadn't even been logged in the system. I asked about this one, that wasn't on the lot, and the sales-type said... "Will have to go look it up as it's that new in".

I went out to take a quick look a it, and after five mins assessing the thing; it was the SUV to buy. The price was within our means, and it had just turned 11km/6600 miles. I was like new! Not the colour she wanted (Red)...but not a scratch/dent on it. It even had that "new smell inside . We eventually did add the xtra electronic warranty.

So the verdict is in...no Sube Forester, but the Nissan Rouge SV instead.

The X-Trail (Nissan) we have has 180k km/108k miles on it and nary a problem. Hope this one works out as well.

Will do a follow up on the Rogue after some time on it.


Thanks all for the past input/info.

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[soundboy]

I really liked the hyundia kona but it cant tow a mountain bike.

Subaru Crosstrek, with manual or the CVT, is one of the few small crossovers to be factory rated for towing....

 

[cratz2]

Does your Rogue have the CVT?

I know there are countless happy buyers, but my niece's 2015 went out and two co-workers had Nissan CVTs go out, all in one week.

That's anecdotal at best, but I've scratched them off my list for a while.

We just got our younger daughter a 2010 CRV with fairly low miles. One of the lots had a really nice, one-owner electric blue 2014 Rogue but that Nissan CVT scares me just a bit.

 

[Cactus Bob]

My wife's 2015 Altima bought new has a CVT and has had no problems with anything at 55k now. I doubt you will have any problems with the Rogue.

 

[restorer-john]

They still call it the X-Trail here. Same 2.5/4cyl QR25DE engine as the T-30/T-31 and T-32 as far as I know. I've had three 4x4 T-30s since 2001/2 when we first got them in Australia. The first two did nearly 180,000km each under lease with absolutely nothing go wrong. A few sets of tyres and regular servicing. My current one has 130,000km on it and is only on its second set of tyres! First set got 80,000+km. I bought it about 5 years ago, 2nd hand, from a retired diesel mechanic and engineer who'd babied it. I'd missed my T-30 X-trails for the last 10 years while driving new cars. It gets 10,000km oil changes and I put in its 2nd battery a few months ago. Nothing else it has ever needed.

But mine were all pre-cvt and Japanese manufacture. I have said I want to find a T-31 4x4 without CVT, but they are getting long in the tooth and hard to find. I don't want the current model T-32, it's too small in load carrying, cramped inside, the tail gate opens way too low (I hit my head) and I don't like the soft plastics. I test drove one recently and it had lost all the things that made the earlier models 'fun'.

I love Nissans.

 

[Shadowdog]

The problem with CVT's is the internals destroy the case and other main parts when they fail so cost big $ to replace. Maybe $4,500 US plus install is nothing to most people now days and many don't keep their vehicles very long.

Regular AT's can be rebuilt for a reasonable price and generally last longer as CVT's are for light duty use only.

With it and rusting issues on some brands I would would vote with my wallet as it just promotes throw away vehicles which those manufactures want.

 

[Shadowdog]

Restorer-john they aren't the same company anymore as back in the 1990's , as they were not part of Renault.

Not having winters road salt helps you also.

 

[restorer-john]

Restorer-john they aren't the same company anymore as back in the 1990's , as they were not part of Renault.

Not having winters road salt helps you also.

Very true.

No snow and salt here! My X-Trail came from Mt. Isa in North west Queensland. Very hot, very dry, lots of red dust and huge mining operations. I know the original owner must have got a flat tire once as the red dust is still in the tread grooves of the factory spare.

This type of countryside:

 

[Quadman2]

My wife's 2015 Altima bought new has a CVT and has had no problems with anything at 55k now. I doubt you will have any problems with the Rogue.

The sales-type took a fair bit of time explaining that the earlier attempts with the CVT had their inherent problems, with more than the one brand. However, he went to to share that pretty well all the "kinks" had been worked out in the Nissan line, and few came in with the later models. It could have been sales talk at the time, but he was up front with me. My wife does the maj of driving and it's pretty well rural use for this Rogue. I did like the look of the Marrano better, but the higher price and lower gas mileage wasn't in the mix.

The problem with CVT's is the internals destroy the case and other main parts when they fail so cost big $ to replace. Maybe $4,500 US plus install is nothing to most people now days and many don't keep their vehicles very long.

Regular AT's can be rebuilt for a reasonable price and generally last longer as CVT's are for light duty use only.

With it and rusting issues on some brands I would would vote with my wallet as it just promotes throw away vehicles which those manufactures want.[/QUO


Was happy to find out today that the Nissan -Trail has a 4 speed tranny!

They still call it the X-Trail here. Same 2.5/4cyl QR25DE engine as the T-30/T-31 and T-32 as far as I know. I've had three 4x4 T-30s since 2001/2 when we first got them in Australia. The first two did nearly 180,000km each under lease with absolutely nothing go wrong. A few sets of tyres and regular servicing. My current one has 130,000km on it and is only on its second set of tyres! First set got 80,000+km. I bought it about 5 years ago, 2nd hand, from a retired diesel mechanic and engineer who'd babied it. I'd missed my T-30 X-trails for the last 10 years while driving new cars. It gets 10,000km oil changes and I put in its 2nd battery a few months ago. Nothing else it has ever needed.

But mine were all pre-cvt and Japanese manufacture. I have said I want to find a T-31 4x4 without CVT, but they are getting long in the tooth and hard to find. I don't want the current model T-32, it's too small in load carrying, cramped inside, the tail gate opens way too low (I hit my head) and I don't like the soft plastics. I test drove one recently and it had lost all the things that made the earlier models 'fun'.

I love Nissans.

Copy that m'8. Me 2. This X at 180k still runs still like a scared rabbit and burns not a drop of oil! Only had to repair the driver's rear wheel hub (bubbling paint)...$350 fixed and painted. They are bloody great SUV's! Other than one ball joint...no $$$ into it. Mind you it does look Army in outer design.

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[Quadman2]

Does your Rogue have the CVT?

I know there are countless happy buyers, but my niece's 2015 went out and two co-workers had Nissan CVTs go out, all in one week.

That's anecdotal at best, but I've scratched them off my list for a while.

We just got our younger daughter a 2010 CRV with fairly low miles. One of the lots had a really nice, one-owner electric blue 2014 Rogue but that Nissan CVT scares me just a bit.

Pretty well most SUV's/cars are CVT's. The different makes say they have it pretty well down now...time will tell. It's the "Belt" system that that worries me!

In the same way, most motors are belt, not chain driven, and with interference mils...it's pretty scary if you don't keep up on the schedule to change by a certain mileage.

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[Shadowdog]

Electric/hybrid all have what they call a CVT , but it's not the same.

Not Ford & FCA , VW/Audi, MB , & BMW (except GM is trying them on their cheap Korean made vehicles and they never tried them before), as they learned what they were about years ago.

Ask them how much to replace the belt, or rebuild it!

 

[Tronk]

Pretty well most SUV's/cars are CVT's. The different makes say they have it pretty well down now...time will tell. It's the "Belt" system that that worries me!

In the same way, most motors are belt, not chain driven, and with interference mils...it's pretty scary if you don't keep up on the schedule to change by a certain mileage.

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First thing I look for is if it has a chain or a belt. Last one I bought that had a belt was a work beater about a decade ago, and I changed it days after I brought it home (it was an older vehicle though).

 

[Quadman2]

First thing I look for is if it has a chain or a belt. Last one I bought that had a belt was a work beater about a decade ago, and I changed it days after I brought it home (it was an older vehicle though).

Good point!

Hope others take this into account as well.

As indicated, will share how the Rogue goes...others with the CVT's can chime in after some mileage on their vehicles.

We really do learn by other's experiences... the smart ones, that is.


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[timsclips]

Both brothers have Rogues, 4-5 years in, don't know the mileage but I have not heard either one of them complain about their cars.

 

[Quadman2]

Both brothers have Rogues, 4-5 years in, don't know the mileage but I have not heard either one of them complain about their cars.

I really appreciate posts like this!

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