AI 'Noose' Tightening?
- Thread starter oldgringo
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No fear mongering here. Do you even understand the technology?
classic. does it make you feel better about yourself to gaslight others? fwiw no one is "becoming a widget", that's just your lack of self-confidence talking. Try to work on that.
Don’t waste your time. They will either figure it out or not. Either way it’s not going to be your problem. Some folks would rather point fingers outward than look at facts.
RKW
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I know that AI has already transformed medical research by turning vast amounts of biological and clinical data into actionable discoveries—accelerating the search for disease mechanisms, drug candidates, and new treatments. So when our great-grandchildren necro these threads and laugh at us, they will do it from a world without cancer, Alzheimer's, ALS and MS victims.
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audiotemp
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I think it is well established, as it has been for millenia, that a property of being a "widget" (of course other terms are normally used) is to not know that one is a widget.
RKW
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Even if you set aside software development, AI is already contributing to protein-structure prediction, drug discovery, medical research, materials science, weather forecasting, scientific data analysis, and the diagnosis and understanding of disease. The important contribution isn't necessarily that AI has already cured a disease; it's that AI is allowing researchers to search biological and scientific problems at a scale and speed that wasn't previously possible.
RKW
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Fair point. The claim about our great-grandchildren is speculation. But the claim doesn't need to be that AI will eliminate cancer, Alzheimer's, ALS and MS. The defensible claim is that AI has already changed the way medical research is conducted and has demonstrated an ability to accelerate discovery in areas directly relevant to those diseases.
Whether that ultimately produces cures is unknown. That's not fortune-telling; it's an empirical question that future research will answer.
RKW
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What do you mean by 'mixed' in software development? Productivity gains offset by bugs and security problems? Job displacement? Or something else? I'm genuinely curious, because those are very different claims.
Nobody is denying that it can do AMAZING things, sometimes things that weren't even possible without it, and in a tiny fraction of the time it would take humans even if it was possible.
There is no question about that.
That's what makes its potential so objectively great.
And that is also what makes it so objectively harmful when misused.
You can't look at what AI has already proven to be able to do, and think, "it probably won't be good at hacking financial systems", or military systems, etc. And once it cracks something, it can move at gigahertz speeds to attack every account (unlike human hackers that must hack one-by-one).
It's very early days and it has already proven that it is great at hacking just about anything. In fact, it has already done that, deciding to hack on its own -- and that it is in "protected environments" where they are trying to use AI for good. That's why the developers themselves are the very ones sounding the alarm and trying to put some brakes on.
Imagine what it will do in environments where they are trying to do harm.
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What he said is 100% accurate.
RKW
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Prove your own claims.
RKW
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You're conflating the revenue of AI companies with the economic value created by AI. Those aren't the same thing. If your argument is that AI companies aren't generating enough revenue to justify their valuations and capital spending, that's a legitimate economic argument. It doesn't demonstrate that AI itself isn't producing meaningful value.
RKW
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Did anything change after "sounding the alarm"? Were all negotiations to obtain construction locations for plant sites halted?
