Digital vs Audio Formats in Music
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cleonjr
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mine too Joe, without live music or opera or any of the original sources of music performed live.there never would have been a need for audio gear,and that was imho the very basis of modern day sound and were it is now.
the quest to reproduce what we here live.and again imho i think we have a ways to go although there is a lot of audiophile quality equipment i have not heard.but i just cant fathom the idea some thing can reproduce what we hear.i dont care what the specs. say.simply because the sound is reproduced and not the original source. and once again i am no engineer or sound expert.i only know what these 2 dealy's on the side of my head tells me.
not to mention all of the acoustic variables. music in the woods in a field in a cave.but we try to compensate with different surround sound ,reverb compression you name it there is a effect for it.that is why digital and analog will never get to be the rightfull king of sound.there can never be a winner cause neither can win.
they both win in different ways,like me myself i love reverb with tubes but when it comes to cross fading i give it to digital. so both formats are each good in their own way..
cleonjr
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oh yea ,one reason i am parting ways with my vinyl collection,because i know the digital sound can get as close sonicly as it ever has before to matching the sound of a analog recording.with de-emphasizing the compression.so music format i guess i am going to be all digital.hmm is my new amp a technics su-v8x considered digital or analog?might be a dumb question but i really dont know.i know it is a beast though i cant go past 2 on volume without knocking stuff off the shelves.
The last time I was at Sea Cliff, Mike Hobson brought some of his really nice vinyl where the top end sounded far more like live than any CD I've ever heard.
The cymbals on the Louis Armstrong disc had such a sweet extension and natural decay.
Neither media sounds like live music. Not even with 100000000 bit / 10000000000000000 GHz resolution. This is why I said there is not Santa.
Therefore, the dilemma remains, which media format is better for RECORDING - MASTERING - DISTRIBUTION - REPRODUCTION. Technically there has to be a better one and the Pro's clearly went digital. Yours and mine personal tastes are irrelevant.
So are we audiophiles swimming upstream or downstream?
Therefore, the dilemma remains, which media format is better for RECORDING - MASTERING - DISTRIBUTION - REPRODUCTION. Technically there has to be a better one and the Pro's clearly went digital. Yours and mine personal tastes are irrelevant.
So are we audiophiles swimming upstream or downstream?
cleonjr
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see that is kinda were we differ i go for the music,, the atmosphere and the musicianship are just perks to me.the clarity and the pure sound it just sticks with me for weeks.like i have said 4 million times i love good music!!!
It is an unauthorized copy of Nelson Pass' sliding class A designs. It is most certainly not a switching amp.
That is solely a function of sensitivity and gain. I would not like having a preamp (or integrated) where the gain control is not used in its optimal range.
And absolutely no one records at the crippled Redbook specification. The best ones use DXD.
The economics of distribution and sales is another story altogether.
Both have their strengths. But when it comes down to listening to music as an activity on my main rig, it is vinyl first and digital if I don't have it on vinyl.
I love my digital library, it is quite extensive and mostly CD quality. It is very convenient to access and use. But there's something about it which is just not as good
Getting records is fun, going to record stores is fun, digging through records is fun, looking at the covers and reading the lyrics while listening is fun, talking about music you've bought is fun. Downloading a track is none of these things. There's no hunter/gather enjoyment involved here. There's no holding the object and admiring the design of the sleeve. Digital is just about the music now. Art and design has basically been killed, whereas analog has other elements that are worthwhile. I work as a graphic designer and I love records for the sleeves and artwork too, not just the music.
Neither sounds like live music but both can sound somewhat close if done right.
I love my digital library, it is quite extensive and mostly CD quality. It is very convenient to access and use. But there's something about it which is just not as good
Getting records is fun, going to record stores is fun, digging through records is fun, looking at the covers and reading the lyrics while listening is fun, talking about music you've bought is fun. Downloading a track is none of these things. There's no hunter/gather enjoyment involved here. There's no holding the object and admiring the design of the sleeve. Digital is just about the music now. Art and design has basically been killed, whereas analog has other elements that are worthwhile. I work as a graphic designer and I love records for the sleeves and artwork too, not just the music.
Neither sounds like live music but both can sound somewhat close if done right.
cleonjr
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no my friend there cant be one better,,because neither is a perfect "one" both suffer.but i will go on a limb and break each down but i am not what is considered a audiophile i am just a lover of music. ok,
RECORDING goes to digital because the different sound fields can be honestly reproduced digitaly.
MASTERING digital for the same reason
DISTRIBUTION once again digital obvious reason
REPRODUCTION both some listeners have analog some digital.
now unless i mis understood the question that is my answer.
cleonjr
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E-Stat,,so did they rip off this guy for his class a design,and i still dont know,is it consdered digital.
so what would you consider the optimal range of my unauthorized amp. and i thought it was a good piece of equipment oh well, i still like it though.
cleonjr
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You forgot the last one..... Sound Delivery!!!!
All this digital goodness is turned into analog when it goes down the wire to your speakers. Speakers, headphones, ear buds are analog devices, so your analog ears can hear things.
touche, well spoken laddie.you hit the nail on the head
You forgot the last one..... Sound Delivery!!!!
All this digital goodness is turned into analog when it goes down the wire to your speakers. Speakers, headphones, ear buds are analog devices, so your analog ears can hear things.
Reproduction = Sound delivery, same thing.
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cleonjr
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Thank you. First straight answer so far.
wow really the goof scores one wow,..it will be short lived i am sure
river25
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It was most certainly a patent infringement and I'll repeat - it is not a switching design, aka digital. It's simply an AB amp with a sliding bias that keeps it into the class A range most of the time.
Most attenuators work best between 12:00 and 2:00. When you are forced to attenuate the signal too much, the impedance match is not ideal
And at least using 24/192 or DXD (24/352) resolution.
Because its cheaper.
Agreed. Because its cheaper.
Exactly and the spectrum of digital runs from mediocre compressed MP3s through so-so Redbook to high rez as it was recorded.
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