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Here you go, and thanks a million to everybody for helping me.

100 uf 25v.........3.3 uf 50-....0,47 100- ......those are wima caps.......A992......c1845......1uk63......33uf 50v.......100uf 50v.....47uf 50v......470uf....63v

Build a DBT if you don't have one. It will save you when you make a mistake.

Please double check. Don't trust me.

For the capacitors,
2x 470uF 63V -- C707, C413
2x 33uF 50V -- C611, C612
2x 47uF 50V -- C613, C614
2x 100uF 50V -- C617, C618
2x 100uF 25V - C403, C404
3x 1uF 63V -- C601, C602, C625
2x 3.3uF 50V -- C401, C402
2x 0.47uF 100V -- C411, C412

For the transistor, don't change them now. I would keep them as is for the time being.
KSA992, two of them will replace one of Q601, Q602
 
Thank you for your effort, i trust you, it seems so time consuming to look all that up. Im going to solder that wire where the trace is bad and hope that works and im back on the parts list, again thanks and thanks to everybody. Im learning alot about the process and its very enjoyable and frustrating at times.
 
From what I've read, it sounds like the bags were labeled for which section they are supposed to be used in. So, the 400 bag will be used to replace the capacitors labeled C4xx, 600 bag labeled 6xx, and so on. If there
s no "C" stamped on the board, but a cap is there, well, it's assumed. Now that you've removed them from the bags, if you don't remember which bag they're from, make a list of the caps remaining to be changed out in each section. Compare them to what new caps you have, and make them match up first by capacitance, and then by voltage. Though I doubt a 47uF/50V cap was meant to replace a10V or 16V original, it could be done. But perhaps you already used say a 47uF/25V cap elsewhere to replace a like valued original, but the seller of the kit planned for the 47/50V cap to be used there... If you've only swapped out 6 caps so far, shouldn't be hard to go back through and list what you're already installed.
 
I took them out of the bags but I left them next to the bags they've all been put back in their appropriate bags and I understand the 400 is the phono stage the 600 is the amplifier 700 the power supply but it's the having to look every single thing up on the schematic.

Yeah I've only put in like five parts so if it's not the last one I put in where I burn the tracer which I'm thinking that's what it is I'll know today when I solder the wire there to see if it works problem is is when I started changing out parts I just turned it on and let it power up but I never played music through it which is what I should have done I just assumed it worked because it turned on that was a mistake.

And I'm guessing from overheating where I lifted the tracer I'm guessing you can fry the capacitor too from overheating it.

Going to solder a piece of wire today when I get off of work and see if it'll turn on and play music where I burn the tracer if it still doesn't work then I'm going to have to go back to each part that I put in but the other parts I put in seem perfectly fine the solder job was better I'm thinking it's the last one I put in is the reason it's not working but we'll see I'll keep you guys up to date appreciate all the help.
 
I took them out of the bags but I left them next to the bags they've all been put back in their appropriate bags and I understand the 400 is the phono stage the 600 is the amplifier 700 the power supply but it's the having to look every single thing up on the schematic.

Yeah I've only put in like five parts so if it's not the last one I put in where I burn the tracer which I'm thinking that's what it is I'll know today when I solder the wire there to see if it works problem is is when I started changing out parts I just turned it on and let it power up but I never played music through it which is what I should have done I just assumed it worked because it turned on that was a mistake.

And I'm guessing from overheating where I lifted the tracer I'm guessing you can fry the capacitor too from overheating it.

Going to solder a piece of wire today when I get off of work and see if it'll turn on and play music where I burn the tracer if it still doesn't work then I'm going to have to go back to each part that I put in but the other parts I put in seem perfectly fine the solder job was better I'm thinking it's the last one I put in is the reason it's not working but we'll see I'll keep you guys up to date appreciate all the help.
You're trusting that the schematic matches everything in your unit. It may, it may not. Revisions are often made, and the schematic you have might not exactly match your unit.

Apply enough heat and you can damage anything. Some circuit boards are more delicate than others, and even experienced techs can encounter lifted traces. A quality soldering iron (ideally a heat controlled soldering station) can mitigate this. Ironically, a lower powered iron can cause more damage, as you have to leave it on the component/circuit board longer.
 
Guess it's all part of the learning curve hopefully it's the last part I put in is where the problem is if not I'll go back and retrace my steps I ain't got too far to go back.
 
You're trusting that the schematic matches everything in your unit. It may, it may not. Revisions are often made, and the schematic you have might not exactly match your unit.

Apply enough heat and you can damage anything. Some circuit boards are more delicate than others, and even experienced techs can encounter lifted traces. A quality soldering iron (ideally a heat controlled soldering station) can mitigate this. Ironically, a lower powered iron can cause more damage, as you have to leave it on the component/circuit board longer.

This. I was going to chime in with the same cautions re/ doing more damage with an iron that isn't hot enough due to the length of time it needs to be on the board/component lead.

I'm pretty green, too, compared to most folks here (especially to Ray, who's been incredibly helpful to me in a few other threads), but have done quite a few board repopulations and a lot of kit building. Maybe a couple suggestions, just trying to help..

1. To piggy back on, or maybe clarify, what some others have said, do one component at a time, BUT before doing that, go through, make a list of what you have, and match each one to the existing components on the board first. If the kit substitutes a cap with a higher voltage rating, this way you can make your best guess for matches before doing any soldering, and you have a chance to go back and make corrections. Yes, it'll take some time, and you'll have to figure out a way to keep track, make notations, whatever, that makes sense to you, but it may save time in the long run and allow for fewer mistakes.

2. As Ray said above, I wouldn't rely on the schematic. For what you're doing, the schematic is unnecessary... just look at what's on the board, and replace it with the matched component in your kit. A subwoofer control board I just repaired had two C119s, meaning two different values in two different places, two C114s (also different), an unlabeled resistor, and a ton of jumper wires that don't appear anywhere on a schematic. If I had gone by a parts list or schematic, I may have installed the incorrect components. Just go by what's on the board. Schematics are useful for troubleshooting and analyzing circuits, determining voltage test points, and a host of other things I'm terrible at or don't know much about.

3. Soldering tips, some of which may or may not have already been mentioned...

a) Use a small tip, temperature-controlled iron. I've found, for me, that 340C is good for soldering on boards using 60/40 .031" solder, and 350-360C is good for desoldering/wicking/sucking.

b) Keep your tip ultra clean, shiny, and tinned. Through trial and error, unless I'm quickly doing joint after joint quickly, if the iron has sat for more than a few seconds, (and while it's still hot, of course), I'll dip it into a brass scrubbie, then touch the tip to solder, dip it into the scrubbie one more time, then quickly go to the site. Iron on pad and lead simultaneously, touch solder VERY briefly to tip of iron to aid in heat transfer, then solder to junction of lead and pad opposite the iron, flow the right amount, remove solder, remove iron. All of that takes no more than second or two if the heat is right and the tip is clean. If the solder doesn't melt instantly when you touch the iron to it prior to addressing the joint, your tip isn't clean enough. Try scraping it over a wet sponge, then scrubbie, then re-tin.

c) Desoldering takes a bit more practice. Again, a clean tip is just as important. Then, put a tiny blob of fresh solder on the hot tip before placing on the site to be desoldered. I use a sucker if there's a lot of solder on the site, and I cut a tiny notch in the nozzle of the sucker that sort of fits over the iron tip to get a better seal and stronger suction. Iron on the site, should melt in a fraction of a second, sucker firmly on top, press the button, and remove the iron. No more than a second or three on the site. That should remove almost all of it. The lead, if it's still firmly attached, can sometimes be pressed out with the tip of the iron, but again, don't leave it there too long. I've found that using wick takes some technique, too, but I get the best results with it.. you'll go through a LOT of wick, because once there's any solder on the wick, it can't be reused... don't even try. Clean fresh copper wick on the site, lightly tinned iron on top, watch the solder flow into the wick, and remove after the solder stops being absorbed or two or three seconds, whichever comes first.

ALL of that is way harder to describe than it is to do, with a bit of practice. AND.. I've described what works well for me. That doesn't mean it's the only way, or even the best way, to do things, but the results have been very good. One of these days, I may invest in a desoldering station, but for now I'm content with what I have.
 
What gauge wire should I use to fix that tracer I'm just going to do a jumper where the piece of wire goes from one solder point to the other 18 gauge should be good?
 
Califmike33, this suggestion was made...

Don't worry. Take a break and come back at it later. Do you have a multimeter? Measure if there is continuity between these two points. If there is continuity then you are good.

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and then you replied....

Ok tested it and its has a connection, so i like the solder the wire idea seems easy,

If by "its has a connection," you meant your meter showed continuity, then the trace is good and doesn't need fixing....

What gauge wire should I use to fix that tracer I'm just going to do a jumper where the piece of wire goes from one solder point to the other 18 gauge should be good?

... so I'm not sure why you want to do this? 18g would most likely be overkill, in any case. A piece of a clipped lead from a component would probably be fine, but again... if it showed continuity with your meter, you can probably just leave it alone.
 
If you get a continuity tone from one solder joint to the next, the trace is intact. No need to de-solder. IF you're doing so to confirm correct cap orientation, that's a different reason. I think your biggest obstacle for now is that you don't know if it actually had sound, just that the lights came on. As already mentioned, Dim Bulb tester I consider a mandatory piece of test equipment as it allows you to put power to the unit, but limit current while you're sorting things out. I'm currently trying to bring back a Scott A-436 with Left channel problems and the DBT enables me to test things a bit without damaging outputs, etc. Right now, I believe the speaker binding posts are causing the amp to "see" a short, as I've tested most other components and don't see any obvious solder bridges where they shouldn't be, etc.
 
Didn't know I'm looking for a beep sorry I'm just completely new not familiar with the multimeter what am I supposed to be setting on the multimeter where do I turn the dial to I know where to stick the positive and negative probe what setting do I put it to to listen for the beep?
 
Not going to change the or add a wire unless I have to if I don't have continuity so I probably checked it wrong the first time I'm going to do it again I just googled how to do it what to set the multimeter to so I know what to do and I'm on my way home from work so we'll see what happens when I get home.
 
Continuity is usually on Ohm setting, then you have push select on my meter to switch from ohm, diode or continuity. You can also just check and see if you get a ohm reading, if not its open.
 
The KS1845 is most probably replacement for the 2SC1685 in the power supply area. I would recommend not to change it and keep it as a spare since the original one is working.

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Is the pin out the same for both transistors, new and original? I used K1845's to replace some transistors and the pinout was didderent from the original. I had to rotate the transistor 180°.
I missed that one time and had to flip it. Look at the Data sheets for both.
I had to reach the driver's in a Sony amp, and with the replacements I had to cross two legs on the replacement.
 
I will have to check that to see if the pin arrangement is the same I think there is some note in the instructions in the kit to do something with that.

Just got home hooked up my multimeter on the place where I thought I burned out the tracer or maybe I did I do have continuity my multimeter is beeping that must mean that's not my problem why the amp is not working.

I'm guessing I need to go backwards to the stuff I put in and test that not sure exactly where to put the multimeter testers though to do that.
 
C710 seems to be the problem when I test it there's no continuity there it's a couple capacitors back that I put in everything else checks out that one will not beep.

Looks like a good solder joint one of my best solder joints on both sides on the board doesn't look overheated but for some reason there's no continuity there I wonder if it's just a bad capacitor.
 
Well badd badd news, the previous 5 parts i put in only one do i get a beep with the mulit meter, the one i though i fried the trace it beeps, go figure. Now i have no idea what to do and why there not beeping, they have solid connections. I have no idea what is going on.
 
Well badd badd news, the previous 5 parts i put in only one do i get a beep with the mulit meter, the one i though i fried the trace it beeps, go figure. Now i have no idea what to do and why there not beeping, they have solid connections. I have no idea what is going on.

Post some pictures from the top and bottom of the PCB.
 
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