Garrard id

[ggizzy]

Pulled this from a mid-late 60s Packard Bell console. Any help IDing would be appreciated.

 

[cubby01]

I believe it's probably an AT-5. Have seen another like yours in a P-B console online identified as an AT-6 but looks a lot like the AT-5 pictured on the AT5 manual at vinylengine.
http://www.vinylengine.com/library/garrard/at5.shtml

 

[gadget73]

I think its actually a 3000. If it is, it should take a slightly wierd Pickering V15 with a single screw mount. Its basically an AT5/6 family changer with a different arm. Looks just like the one KLH used in their mini systems. There were a pile of machines based on that mechanism, just a few different motor and arm combos to make up the different models. The guts are pretty nearly identical though

 

[ggizzy]

Thanks for the replies. I will need to check the lubrication and probably get a new charger. This will be my first time messing with this. I alao have a Type A I'll be doing at the same time.

My only concern is the rubber mat on the platter. It almost looks like it's been burned in several places. Any clues what to do about this? It appears glued on.

 

[mhardy6647]

I think its actually a 3000. If it is, it should take a slightly wierd Pickering V15 with a single screw mount. Its basically an AT5/6 family changer with a different arm. Looks just like the one KLH used in their mini systems...

It does indeed (look like the Garrard used by KLH in their compact/all-in-one hifis).

 

[KentTeffeteller]

It is a Garrard 3000 changer. AutoSlim mechanism. Single screw mount. Some had ceramic cartridges, others had Pickering V-15 cartridges fitted. A decent basic changer in good order.

 

[gadget73]

Thanks for the replies. I will need to check the lubrication and probably get a new charger. This will be my first time messing with this. I alao have a Type A I'll be doing at the same time.

My only concern is the rubber mat on the platter. It almost looks like it's been burned in several places. Any clues what to do about this? It appears glued on.

Any of the service manuals for this changer family will get you what you need for lube and such. Try an AT6 manual.

Not sure what to do about the platter mat. If its set up like the KLH, its bonded to the metal platter somehow and I don't expect you can do much for it but cover it with something else or change the platter.

If you want to dump this, pretty much anything in this changer family will drop into the hole. The only thing to watch for is clearance on the back end of the arm. Some have a counterweight which requires some extra room to swing. The AT60 or SL65 are probably the best of this line, both having better motors and an improved trip mechanism. This one has the 2 pole motor, which is kind of a hummy mess. The AT60 has a 4 pole, and I forget how many are in the SL65's SynchroLab motor. I want to say 12, but don't hold me to that. I have an AT6 and an AT60 with the 4 pole, and I previously had a KLH with the 2 pole. The 4 pole is much smoother and quieter.

 

[ggizzy]

Thanks for the info. I don't think I'll dump it, as it looks to be in working condition, and it's going to go back into the console with new speakers and a new amplifier. Mainly just used for 78s. I guess I'll live with the mat, as long as it doesn't cause anything to go haywire.

 

[cubby01]

I'm still pretty sure it's an AT-5 LM version. Look at the "LM Service Info" document in the link I provided in post 2. Identical unit from what I can see.

And here's another thread that identifies a similar but different color unit as an AT-5LM
http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=285068

Maybe the ones that went into consoles were known as AT5LM whereas the same unit that went into the KLH system was a 3000c?

 

[gadget73]

I expect you'll find almost no actual difference between an AT-5LM and a 3000. Maybe its just a color or mat change that got the different model number.

 

[KentTeffeteller]

Only difference on those is cosmetics. Same mechanism.