Going Digital!

[Kt77]

iPurifier 2

Read about here! This may be better than the Jitter Bug!

http://www.head-fi.org/t/784983/ifi-ipurifier-2-reviews-impressions-and-discussion-thread

http://www.head-fi.org/t/779504/ifi...-back-in-the-hat-and-new-2-winner-page-24/375

Yes..........., another great heads up, as something to be used in tandem with their Micro iDAC 2 and Nano iDSD DACs. 3.0 USB connection at that.

Good one as always B, and truth be told they should hire you as a rep, as you're on it.

 

[RH67]

I am on the fence this morning on which device works better. The Regen has more warmth and fullness to the sound but the 3.0 is a brighter and may have a little bit more layering and detail. Maybe if I had a tube based amp instead of SS the 3.0 would be a better choice or Harbeth speakers instead of the B&W's? Damn! This is going to start my hunt for new major components again.

A friend was kind enough to let me borrow his iUSB 3.0 for the weekend and in my system it added nothing positive or really nothing negative for that matter. At first i thought that there was a slight amount more detail but as it turned out the 3.0 added a little more gain, i listen normally between the 9-10 o`clock position with the 3.0 i needed to stay at the 9 o`clock position to equal the same volume in my system. After making this adjustment i did notice a slight brightness with the 3.0 in place that upon first listen gave the sense of more detail but after taking it out of the system the detail was still there minus the slight bright edge that caught ones attention. In some systems this could be a bonus or benefit.

These devices, REGEN, JB, 3.0 all seem to have the biggest impact with DAC`s below a certain price range. With the Lampizator Level 4 at 6k and La Scalla MK11 at 7k using the REGEN i notice a very slight improvement in fullness and texture but as i said it`s ever so slight. The JB made no difference at all with these two DAC`s and the 3.0 with the Lampizator Level 4 was a wash. Now with the Lampizator Amber 2k in the system there was an immediate and noticeable improvement in SQ with the JB making the least impact in SQ.

I agree with Lee Harvey, in my system using the Lampizator Amber and the REGEN there was a warmth and fullness that is missing with the 3.0, the 3.0 presenting a brighter overall sound, so depending on ones system each could offer there own benefits to ones system.

Depending on ones system and DAC in place these devices could offer some big improvements in SQ or offer very little and to be honest with the REGEN taken out of my system using the Lampizator Level 4 as the DAC i really do not miss it, the Lampizator does just fine on it`s own.

My friend (also a Lampizator owner) who let me borrow the 3.0 came to the same conclusion as myself, while the 3.0 made no impact on our systems regarding SQ that`s not to say that it will not help others.

BTW i spent about 15 hrs. listening to the 3.0, from FRi. to Sun. night.

The biggest improvement in SQ that i have recently encountered has been JRiver MC21.

 

[Kt77]

A friend was kind enough to let me borrow his iUSB 3.0 for the weekend and in my system it added nothing positive or really nothing negative for that matter. At first i thought that there was a slight amount more detail but as it turned out the 3.0 added a little more gain, i listen normally between the 9-10 o`clock position with the 3.0 i needed to stay at the 9 o`clock position to equal the same volume in my system. After making this adjustment i did notice a slight brightness with the 3.0 in place that upon first listen gave the sense of more detail but after taking it out of the system the detail was still there minus the slight bright edge that caught ones attention. In some systems this could be a bonus or benefit.

These devices, REGEN, JB, 3.0 all seem to have the biggest impact with DAC`s below a certain price range. With the Lampizator Level 4 at 6k and La Scalla MK11 at 7k using the REGEN i notice a very slight improvement in fullness and texture but as i said it`s ever so slight. The JB made no difference at all with these two DAC`s and the 3.0 with the Lampizator Level 4 was a wash. Now with the Lampizator Amber 2k in the system there was an immediate and noticeable improvement in SQ with the JB making the least impact in SQ.

I agree with Lee Harvey, in my system using the Lampizator Amber and the REGEN there was a warmth and fullness that is missing with the 3.0, the 3.0 presenting a brighter overall sound, so depending on ones system each could offer there own benefits to ones system.

Depending on ones system and DAC in place these devices could offer some big improvements in SQ or offer very little and to be honest with the REGEN taken out of my system using the Lampizator Level 4 as the DAC i really do not miss it, the Lampizator does just fine on it`s own.

My friend (also a Lampizator owner) who let me borrow the 3.0 came to the same conclusion as myself, while the 3.0 made no impact on our systems regarding SQ that`s not to say that it will not help others.

BTW i spent about 15 hrs. listening to the 3.0, from FRi. to Sun. night.

The biggest improvement in SQ that i have recently encountered has been JRiver MC21.

Once again, great report RH67,

And one that I fully have come to understand is in fact listener and system as well as DAC dependent as the costlier DACs should in fact be built where they shouldn't benefit from these devices, yet many have reported where they work well on DACs from the likes of Trinity which I don't view as cheap, so I guess it comes down to how each company has paid attention to how each internal component is implemented which makes the biggest difference.

Yet in hindsight, it does come back to means of voicing ones system much like ones choice of cartridges - cabling - tubes and so on.

And using Windows based OS, I can hear how JRiver MC21 sounds nice, but by me being a Mac user............., I'm riding out Audirvana + as in its natural state the SQ far exceeds anything I've heard while using JRiver, even while I'm now listening at the DXD 705 settings and loving it compared to DSD 128 in JRiver, whom would've thunk it?.

 

[RH67]

Once again, great report RH67,

And one that I fully have come to understand is in fact listener and system as well as DAC dependent as the costlier DACs should in fact be built where they shouldn't benefit from these devices, yet many have reported where they work well on DACs from the likes of Trinity which I don't view as cheap, so I guess it comes down to how each company has paid attention to how each internal component is implemented which makes the biggest difference.

Yet in hindsight, it does come back to means of voicing ones system much like ones choice of cartridges - cabling - tubes and so on.

And using Windows based OS, I can hear how JRiver MC21 sounds nice, but by me being a Mac user............., I'm riding out Audirvana + as in its natural state the SQ far exceeds anything I've heard while using JRiver, even while I'm now listening at the DXD 705 settings and loving it compared to DSD 128 in JRiver, whom would've thunk it?.

Hi Oscar
I`m also a Mac Mini user. MC 21 really surprised me, dare i say on par with HQPlayer?? Yikes!! i know i`ll get some flak for that. lol.

 

[slippers-on]

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Originally Posted by tjw321

I've been AWOL from the forums for a few days so I've only just now had the chance to thank IFI for my iPurifier 2.So, thank you IFI

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I'm a "bits are bits" sceptic, and my ears are more tin than golden, so there is no way I would have bought an iPurifier 2, despite being a huge IFI fan. However, I plugged it in and....wow! It really makes a difference. I'm a bit short of spare time ATM, but hopefully I'll be able to try it out more in the near future. In the meantime just read Technobear's comments. I'm in 100% agreement with everything he has said about the iPurifier 2 (except that I tried it with an ODAC rather than a Modi).



Hi,



Yes, expect greater sonic gains with non-AMR/iFi products. The micro iUSB3.0 being the top of the line is suited for to US$5,000 DACs so it is quite well-future proofed should you change to more expensive DACs in the future.



Thanks.

 

[Kt77]

I've to add something to which I hold dear to my heart, and say that I'm a big proponent of room treatment devices and use Synergistic Research HFTs | HFT Xs, as well as Acoustic Systems International ( ASI ) Sugar Cubes, some I'm going to put it out there as simply as I can..............., if none of you guys are using these in your room?, nor spend this amount on said treatment, then how am I to believe what you're saying on other matters:

http://www.dagogo.com/audio-reference-technology-room-tuning-cones-and-l-f-e

( I'm joking..........., got ya ) Just imagine the type of system one could own at the cost of these devices..........., some people must have it made whom can afford such luxuries, I'd rather have a customized listening room with radiated hearing underneath the floor tiles and sound proofing, but that's just me.

Take care Fellas.

 

[Kt77]

Hi Oscar
I`m also a Mac Mini user. MC 21 really surprised me, dare i say on par with HQPlayer?? Yikes!! i know i`ll get some flak for that. lol.

OMG!!!!!!!!!, as a Mac Mini user, I can respect what you're saying, and maybe like Byron recommended upon me deleting it several weeks ago upon my tossing it in the trash bin and deleting JRemote, I should've at least downloaded my MC21 license before doing so.

Thanks............, now it's time to regroup, drop my pride and do a fresh reinstall.............., talk about many mistakes after mistake................, I need my Mommy

 

[slippers-on]

Once again......These devices both, (Regen, iUSB3.0) are system dependent. Some guys with high dollar dacs are able to reap the benefits of these devices and some are simply not as in RH67' case. The following is a guy with high dollar gear who is reaping the benefit of both the Regen and the iUSB3.0 and his gear is listed. He has a $6k DAC and those speakers and his cables are not cheap! I love his cables and looked into them years ago...to expensive for my pockets.

So not getting any rewards from these devices doesn't mean the devices are bad or not good enough...only that they are system dependent or something in the system may not passing the technology or one may not be able to hear the improvements due to hearing lost or some other reasons.

westy

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I posted my impressions of the new iFi usb 3.0 on the Regen sponsored page.
In retrospect, I should have posted it here.
So here is a summary of that posting.

Update:
Well from this early stage after playing the IFi non stop with the some burn indiscs there has been an ongoing improvement in sound quality. I have found that although the iFi supplied AC power supply is supposed to be great, using my 9VLinear power supply that I was powering the Regens with also improved the iFiunit.

So, right now I am playing music through the iFi only (the Regens are not connected). To me, right now, the sound quality is just as good as with the Regens if my memory is correct (perhaps... gulp, better.
But, I have not done any back and forth comparison yet. And even when I attempt that it will probably be very hard to compare since I have to turn off the Dac and it resets itself.

Perhaps tomorrow, I will add the Regens after the iFi to see if there is synergy in the units.

Thanks: following with interest.
Could you mention cables and gear, too, if not a hassle (or point me/us to it if you have mentioned itbefore)?

Well I am using a Bryston BDP-2 for the source. My Dac is the PS Audio Direct Stream. My Amp is a Pass Labs X350.5 and my speakers are Eggleston Andra 2. Most of my cabling is HiDiamond (top of there line) powercords, interconnects and speaker cables.
I also use a PS Audio P-10 power conditioner on my digital equipment only. Ihave 3 dedicated circuits. One for the digital, one for my analog and one formy JL Audio F-113 subwoofers. My outlets are all Furutech GTX Rhodium.
For tweaks I use Nordost QV2's in unused outlets. I also have 3 Acoustic Reviveunits , the RR 888, 777, 77.
For footers I am using Stillpoints Ultra SS under all of my components.
I hope this helps.

Slippers-on, I hear you it may be overkill but I am the type that likes to tweak. Sometimes it matters , sometimes it doesn't. After all, who wouldn't want to be able to hear Diana Krall "toot" in the extreme background ?
I'm only kidding of course but I do want to see how far back the sound stage can go.

Right now, I have both the Regens and the new iFi unit working together, and the sound is very nice. I have the iFi going into the Regens. The Regens are going into the Dac. All are now powered by a single linear power supply.
I guess, I will then use just the Regens and see what changes. If something degrades then I will know there is some type of synergy with the iFi.
After that, I will still need to run the Regens into the iFi.
I just wish I could do a quick A/B test on the different units and/or combos.

sdube,
Ok, I think I have a conclusion.
Drum roll please....
The 2 Regens by themselves was not as good as in combo with the iFi.
But!...
The best combo is having the Regens plugged into the iFi. The iFi then goes into the Dac. Absolutely the best sound so far.

 

[slippers-on]

I've to add something to which I hold dear to my heart, and say that I'm a big proponent of room treatment devices and use Synergistic Research HFTs | HFT Xs, as well as Acoustic Systems International ( ASI ) Sugar Cubes, some I'm going to put it out there as simply as I can..............., if none of you guys are using these in your room?, nor spend this amount on said treatment, then how am I to believe what you're saying on other matters:

http://www.dagogo.com/audio-reference-technology-room-tuning-cones-and-l-f-e

( I'm joking..........., got ya ) Just imagine the type of system one could own at the cost of these devices..........., some people must have it made whom can afford such luxuries, I'd rather have a customized listening room with radiated hearing underneath the floor tiles and sound proofing, but that's just me.

Take care Fellas.

Not so fast. Bro! I have room treatments in my two channel room, and with room treatments, I can hear the faintest subtle detail!

 

[Kt77]

Not so fast. Bro! I have room treatments in my two channel room, and with room treatments, I can hear the faintest subtle detail!

Little Brotha,

As noted at the bottom, it was another attempt at humor, as even I think the pricing on these devices is way over the top, and I don't doubt anything you've said during the time I've known you..........., as I know " you get it ".

 

[slippers-on]

Yes but there is truth in that with room treatments, one can hear the smaller detail best. Also isolation devices also help.

 

[Kt77]

Once again......These devices both, (Regen, iUSB3.0) are system dependent. Some guys with high dollar dacs are able to reap the benefits of these devices and some are simply not as in RH67' case. The following is a guy with high dollar gear who is reaping the benefit of both the Regen and the iUSB3.0 and his gear is listed. He has a $6k DAC and those speakers and his cables are not cheap! I love his cables and looked into them years ago...to expensive for my pockets.

So not getting any rewards from these devices doesn't mean the devices are bad or not good enough...only that they are system dependent or something in the system may not passing the technology or one may not be able to hear the improvements due to hearing lost or some other reasons.

westy

Freshman Member
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Jul 2015
Location
Michigan
Posts
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I posted my impressions of the new iFi usb 3.0 on the Regen sponsored page.
In retrospect, I should have posted it here.
So here is a summary of that posting.

Update:
Well from this early stage after playing the IFi non stop with the some burn indiscs there has been an ongoing improvement in sound quality. I have found that although the iFi supplied AC power supply is supposed to be great, using my 9VLinear power supply that I was powering the Regens with also improved the iFiunit.

So, right now I am playing music through the iFi only (the Regens are not connected). To me, right now, the sound quality is just as good as with the Regens if my memory is correct (perhaps... gulp, better.
But, I have not done any back and forth comparison yet. And even when I attempt that it will probably be very hard to compare since I have to turn off the Dac and it resets itself.

Perhaps tomorrow, I will add the Regens after the iFi to see if there is synergy in the units.

Thanks: following with interest.
Could you mention cables and gear, too, if not a hassle (or point me/us to it if you have mentioned itbefore)?

Well I am using a Bryston BDP-2 for the source. My Dac is the PS Audio Direct Stream. My Amp is a Pass Labs X350.5 and my speakers are Eggleston Andra 2. Most of my cabling is HiDiamond (top of there line) powercords, interconnects and speaker cables.
I also use a PS Audio P-10 power conditioner on my digital equipment only. Ihave 3 dedicated circuits. One for the digital, one for my analog and one formy JL Audio F-113 subwoofers. My outlets are all Furutech GTX Rhodium.
For tweaks I use Nordost QV2's in unused outlets. I also have 3 Acoustic Reviveunits , the RR 888, 777, 77.
For footers I am using Stillpoints Ultra SS under all of my components.
I hope this helps.

Slippers-on, I hear you it may be overkill but I am the type that likes to tweak. Sometimes it matters , sometimes it doesn't. After all, who wouldn't want to be able to hear Diana Krall "toot" in the extreme background ?
I'm only kidding of course but I do want to see how far back the sound stage can go.

Right now, I have both the Regens and the new iFi unit working together, and the sound is very nice. I have the iFi going into the Regens. The Regens are going into the Dac. All are now powered by a single linear power supply.
I guess, I will then use just the Regens and see what changes. If something degrades then I will know there is some type of synergy with the iFi.
After that, I will still need to run the Regens into the iFi.
I just wish I could do a quick A/B test on the different units and/or combos.

sdube,
Ok, I think I have a conclusion.
Drum roll please....
The 2 Regens by themselves was not as good as in combo with the iFi.
But!...
The best combo is having the Regens plugged into the iFi. The iFi then goes into the Dac. Absolutely the best sound so far.

I've noticed where he first tired the IFi iUSB 3.0 into the Regen, and finding concluded in his case that he prefers it with the Regen going into the 3.0 with it going into the DAC, yet this is one of those areas where if nothing else, as it's generally stated " where I find it comes down to the end users system's ability to emphasize where each performs better ".

Either way, I'm very happy to have both and know that neither is getting away from me, and in fact might even add an iDAC 2 so that I'm able to sample this whole 3.0 concept, as God knows.............., it isn't going to cost me to break into the piggyback, well not quite yet, but it does cut into my funds towards the iDSD Pro, oh well............, I guess I've to put some more coins aside.

 

[slippers-on]

I've noticed where he first tired the IFi iUSB 3.0 into the Regen, and finding concluded in his case that he prefers it with the Regen going into the 3.0 with it going into the DAC, yet this is one of those areas where if nothing else, as it's generally stated " where I find it comes down to the end users system's ability to emphasize where each performs better ".

Either way, I'm very happy to have both and know that neither is getting away from me, and in fact might even add an iDAC 2 so that I'm able to sample this whole 3.0 concept, as God knows.............., it isn't going to cost me to break into the piggyback, well not quite yet, but it does cut into my funds towards the iDSD Pro, oh well............, I guess I've to put some more coins aside.

Bro...as I stated before, the IFI/AMR techs told me, all you need to do is use an unbroken 100% 3.0 signal from the computer into a 2.0 DAC and you should reap the benefit because the speed is great for the faster processing of DSD. I suspect a 3.0 DAC is even better, but you still get faster processing with DSD on a 2.0 DSD DAC.

 

[Kt77]

Yes but there is truth in that with room treatments, one can hear the smaller detail best.

Bro.............., " Truth ".

But let's not even get started on the matter of noise filtration devices like those from the likes of PS Audio or AudioPrism like the respective Noise Harvesters and QuietLines, which both have a greater ability of bringing fourth more hidden detailing capabilities into the mix which many aren't even aware are there..............., once again weird science, and something that I'm not technical enough to explain, but know that they work........, much like those Nordost QV-2s in Westy's system, as I use them as well.

In my mind..........., the room itself remains one biggest challenge, followed by the proper sized speakers and amp capable of driving said space accordingly, as common sense whom have us know, that one doesn't place gigantic speakers in rooms to which one can touch the cabinet baffles with their tongues extended from their seating position.............., nor speakers touching ones ceilings, yet the keyword here is " common sense ", as we learn, sometimes we've to even re-learn what we thought we knew, it never stops............., knowledge that is.

 

[Kt77]

Bro...as I stated before, the IFI/AMR techs told me, all you need to do is use an unbroken 100% 3.0 signal from the computer into a 2.0 DAC and you should reap the benefit because the speed is great for the faster processing of DSD. I suspect a 3.0 DAC is even better, but you still get faster processing with DSD on a 2.0 DSD DAC.

Bet.

I do recall where it said something about tying it together with a USB 3.0 HHD|SSD correct?, so is that it?.

 

[Kt77]

And even this reviewer is using what I'd call an upscale DAC during his review of said Regen, and clearly hears the difference it brings:

http://www.audiostream.com/content/...-and-audioquest-jitterbug#JjReCyU7rhD8GshH.97

Oops!, wrong thread.

 

[RH67]

Once again......These devices both, (Regen, iUSB3.0) are system dependent. Some guys with high dollar dacs are able to reap the benefits of these devices and some are simply not as in RH67' case. The following is a guy with high dollar gear who is reaping the benefit of both the Regen and the iUSB3.0 and his gear is listed. He has a $6k DAC and those speakers and his cables are not cheap! I love his cables and looked into them years ago...to expensive for my pockets.

So not getting any rewards from these devices doesn't mean the devices are bad or not good enough...only that they are system dependent or something in the system may not passing the technology or one may not be able to hear the improvements due to hearing lost or some other reasons.

westy

Freshman Member
Join Date
Jul 2015
Location
Michigan
Posts
49

I posted my impressions of the new iFi usb 3.0 on the Regen sponsored page.
In retrospect, I should have posted it here.
So here is a summary of that posting.

Update:
Well from this early stage after playing the IFi non stop with the some burn indiscs there has been an ongoing improvement in sound quality. I have found that although the iFi supplied AC power supply is supposed to be great, using my 9VLinear power supply that I was powering the Regens with also improved the iFiunit.

So, right now I am playing music through the iFi only (the Regens are not connected). To me, right now, the sound quality is just as good as with the Regens if my memory is correct (perhaps... gulp, better.
But, I have not done any back and forth comparison yet. And even when I attempt that it will probably be very hard to compare since I have to turn off the Dac and it resets itself.

Perhaps tomorrow, I will add the Regens after the iFi to see if there is synergy in the units.

Thanks: following with interest.
Could you mention cables and gear, too, if not a hassle (or point me/us to it if you have mentioned itbefore)?

Well I am using a Bryston BDP-2 for the source. My Dac is the PS Audio Direct Stream. My Amp is a Pass Labs X350.5 and my speakers are Eggleston Andra 2. Most of my cabling is HiDiamond (top of there line) powercords, interconnects and speaker cables.
I also use a PS Audio P-10 power conditioner on my digital equipment only. Ihave 3 dedicated circuits. One for the digital, one for my analog and one formy JL Audio F-113 subwoofers. My outlets are all Furutech GTX Rhodium.
For tweaks I use Nordost QV2's in unused outlets. I also have 3 Acoustic Reviveunits , the RR 888, 777, 77.
For footers I am using Stillpoints Ultra SS under all of my components.
I hope this helps.

Slippers-on, I hear you it may be overkill but I am the type that likes to tweak. Sometimes it matters , sometimes it doesn't. After all, who wouldn't want to be able to hear Diana Krall "toot" in the extreme background ?
I'm only kidding of course but I do want to see how far back the sound stage can go.

Right now, I have both the Regens and the new iFi unit working together, and the sound is very nice. I have the iFi going into the Regens. The Regens are going into the Dac. All are now powered by a single linear power supply.
I guess, I will then use just the Regens and see what changes. If something degrades then I will know there is some type of synergy with the iFi.
After that, I will still need to run the Regens into the iFi.
I just wish I could do a quick A/B test on the different units and/or combos.

sdube,
Ok, I think I have a conclusion.
Drum roll please....
The 2 Regens by themselves was not as good as in combo with the iFi.
But!...
The best combo is having the Regens plugged into the iFi. The iFi then goes into the Dac. Absolutely the best sound so far.

Yes, very system dependent.

I just know that in the 5 DAC`s that i had on hand over the weekend the 3 least costly showed improvements in SQ without question and the 2 higher priced DAC`s showed little ? to none. As i pointed out in my post this might not be true in all cases and i can only go by what my personal experience has shown and while the iUSB 3.0 and REGEN improves the SQ of the Lampizator Amber or iFi Micro DSD for example this improvement in SQ still is not on the level of the new Lampizator Level 4 or the La Scalla MK11 with or without the REGEN or 3.0. What i`m trying to say is that people are not going to get that level of SQ just by inserting these devices into their systems, one reaches a point of no returns and overall DAC design and implementation takes over.

 

[Lee Harvey]

A friend was kind enough to let me borrow his iUSB 3.0 for the weekend and in my system it added nothing positive or really nothing negative for that matter. At first i thought that there was a slight amount more detail but as it turned out the 3.0 added a little more gain, i listen normally between the 9-10 o`clock position with the 3.0 i needed to stay at the 9 o`clock position to equal the same volume in my system. After making this adjustment i did notice a slight brightness with the 3.0 in place that upon first listen gave the sense of more detail but after taking it out of the system the detail was still there minus the slight bright edge that caught ones attention. In some systems this could be a bonus or benefit.

These devices, REGEN, JB, 3.0 all seem to have the biggest impact with DAC`s below a certain price range. With the Lampizator Level 4 at 6k and La Scalla MK11 at 7k using the REGEN i notice a very slight improvement in fullness and texture but as i said it`s ever so slight. The JB made no difference at all with these two DAC`s and the 3.0 with the Lampizator Level 4 was a wash. Now with the Lampizator Amber 2k in the system there was an immediate and noticeable improvement in SQ with the JB making the least impact in SQ.

I agree with Lee Harvey, in my system using the Lampizator Amber and the REGEN there was a warmth and fullness that is missing with the 3.0, the 3.0 presenting a brighter overall sound, so depending on ones system each could offer there own benefits to ones system.

Depending on ones system and DAC in place these devices could offer some big improvements in SQ or offer very little and to be honest with the REGEN taken out of my system using the Lampizator Level 4 as the DAC i really do not miss it, the Lampizator does just fine on it`s own.

My friend (also a Lampizator owner) who let me borrow the 3.0 came to the same conclusion as myself, while the 3.0 made no impact on our systems regarding SQ that`s not to say that it will not help others.

BTW i spent about 15 hrs. listening to the 3.0, from FRi. to Sun. night.

The biggest improvement in SQ that i have recently encountered has been JRiver MC21.

Thanks for the validation about what I am hearing using the Regen. Is the Level 4 you were using a PCM or DSD version?

 

[RH67]

Thanks for the validation about what I am hearing using the Regen. Is the Level 4 you were using a PCM or DSD version?

It`s the DSD version. But it`s unlike any Level 4 that i have seen, the back looks like the Golden Gate but instead of the tubes on top the tubes are sticking out the back of the unit. I know that i was told that they were going to build me a very nice special unit but i never expected anything like this and it sounds much better than any previous Level 4 that i have heard, Fred the importer has not seen a unit like mine so it could be the next incarnation?? But no information about it is really known for now, it could be a one off that was built for me. It`s the best DAC i have heard.

 

[RH67]

Not the best photos, tubes are to the right.