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I Recently Became An Audiophile.

Tube equipment is better in the hands of those who have the skills to do their own repairs since it tends to require more frequent servicing. This is especially true of vintage equipment. For best performance for the dollar with better average reliablity - then solid state is the way to go.

One of the world's foremost pioneers in amplifier design whose career spanned from the late 1940s until around 2000 famously said, "If they [tube & SS] are designed properly, they should sound the same."
 
When you say you "became an audiophile", I assume that means you became interested in quality sound. What aspects of sound would you say interest you most?

Would you consider yourself handy? That can affect budget a fair bit, not because tube amps are unreliable (they shouldn't be) but because with some capability and knowledge you can get high quality at relatively low cost.
I love old audio equipment, and also I just love good sounding music. I would consider myself pretty handy, as I refoamed and repaired a pair of speakers I got for free, and fixed my 8track.
 
I love old audio equipment, and also I just love good sounding music. I would consider myself pretty handy, as I refoamed and repaired a pair of speakers I got for free, and fixed my 8track.
I'm also trying to fix my cassette deck, but I lost the damn piece, so that's on hold. I also know a little bit about electrical engineering, basic stuff, like "don't you dare try to power that 60 watt speaker with your amp that only produces 45 watts (Yes I did this once)"
 
I'm also trying to fix my cassette deck, but I lost the damn piece, so that's on hold. I also know a little bit about electrical engineering, basic stuff, like "don't you dare try to power that 60 watt speaker with your amp that only produces 45 watts (Yes I did this once)"
Sounds like you've got yourself some audio misinformation. The power rating of a speaker is typically the max power it can handle. You can certainly power a speaker rated for 60 watts max with a 45 watt amp. It won't hurt anything. You can power a speaker with a 60 watts max with a 300 watt amp and it won't hurt anything, provided you don't turn the volume to 11.

If you're looking to get into tubes, in my experience they don't have to be more finicky than a solid state amp if you get new. Many if not most new tube amps are self biasing, and many tube amps allow a wide range of tube types to be used. If you're handy you might consider Elekit. The TU-8200 is an easy to build kit with auto-bias and flexible tube options at a moderate price. Elekit has quite a few different kits with different topologies and tube types. They're all circuit board based so easy to build. Made in Japan.
 
In my opinion, there's no question that tubes do many things better than SS (though the same could be said in reverse). I have always found tube equipment to offer better transparency, a greater sense of realism and a closer connection to the performers and instruments. There's a bloom and sense of relaxation that most SS equipment doesn't offer. And I'm going to qualify that with a caution against power expectations. In my experience, reaching above 60wpc with a tube system can be tricky and subject to diminishing returns, which isn't to say that there aren't some very good 100+wpc tube amps. But that's when you really get into expense and maintainance, in my mind. To me a 30-40wpc tube system with suitably paired speakers can offer a tremendous amount of pleasure.

There is also an aesthetic element that many people find appealing. I'm more drawn to this:

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...than this:

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But I think there's something a bit deeper than that. Just as something of the musical-hobby experience was lost in the transition from vinyl to digital, something was lost in the transition from tubes to SS. There was a certain pride in the well-assembled, well-maintained tube system, as well as a connection to the reproduction process, in that recording equipment and playback equipment were synchronized to a large extent. Yes, you had to work a bit--fiddle with the bias now and then, refresh the tubes (though not as often as people nowadays think), tweak a bit, keep an eye on things. But reliability? You can find thousands of examples of tube amps, preamps and receivers that still work just fine, or will with a minimal amount of servicing. If it weren't for the somewhat fragile nature of those old electrolytic can caps, you'd be hard pressed to find an old Scott, Fisher, Heathkit or other tube piece that *didn't* still work.

A friend recently downsized and sent me her 25 year-old Jolida tube integrated amp to sell for her. The only thing wrong with it was the volume pot, which I replaced for $10. Otherwise it worked perfectly and measured beautifully. Conversely, I worked in a stereo shop years ago and the number of faulty NEW SS amps we had to repair kept the back room very busy. And replacement parts? With old SS stuff, good luck. With old tube stuff--a single trip to a web site like Antique Electronic Supply yields just about anything you need to bring a vintage tube amp back up to spec.

IMO, again, there's too much anecdotal evidence of people hearing their first tube system and being struck by the difference between tubes and SS to simply dismiss as "preference." Something is affecting the way people hear the music.

I've heard tube systems I would rate among the best systems I've ever heard. I can't think of a SS system that struck me the same way.
 
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I love old audio equipment, and also I just love good sounding music. I would consider myself pretty handy, as I refoamed and repaired a pair of speakers I got for free, and fixed my 8track.
That sounds like you are in a good position then. I would suggest reading the threads here on the Magnavox console amps and looking for one of the PP EL84 or PP 6V6 amps, stereo amps with four of those tubes, for around $200 or less. Look up threads on here from Dave Gillespie about those amps and try restoring it. I would suggest these over the single-ended (two of those tubes on a stereo amp) because they will work well with a wider variety of speakers. But they are relatively simple amps, and restored can sound very good, from there you can go further if you like what you hear.
 
This is also informative:


FYI, the tube was first and started it all. The transistor wasn't invented until 1947. Tubes eventually got pushed out as the transistor got more available and cheaper and smaller and created much less heat than a tube.

Tubes started to make a come back when hobbyists and people like me started to miss them and bring 'em back. Most guitar players I have talked to will prefer a tube amp over a solid state amp.

Vinyl kinda went through the same evolution as tubes. It's made or is still making a come back.
 
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Solid state is a dinner. Tubes are a dinner and a show.

Tubes add some visual warmth and distortion. Distortion, from even harmonics, please the ear, contrary to popular belief.

But there is no doubt SS is cheaper and more reliable.

Nice tubes are now so overpriced, you have to believe in magic to seek them.
 
Solid state is a dinner. Tubes are a dinner and a show.

Tubes add some visual warmth and distortion. Distortion, from even harmonics, please the ear, contrary to popular belief.

But there is no doubt SS is cheaper and more reliable.

Nice tubes are now so overpriced, you have to believe in magic to seek them.
Not just magic… Stereo Magic!
 
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