I can't imagine the Lemon Song sounding any better regardless of sound quality.
It's not a case of make or break for my digging it.
Higher/Fi or not
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zyhu2ysqKGk
June 3rd Led Zeppelin
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I can't imagine the Lemon Song sounding any better regardless of sound quality.
It's not a case of make or break for my digging it.
Higher/Fi or not
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zyhu2ysqKGk
tmtomh
Active Member
I can't imagine the Lemon Song sounding any better regardless of sound quality.
It's not a case of make or break for my digging it.
Higher/Fi or not
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zyhu2ysqKGk
Interesting example - I still prefer the original Robert Ludwig vinyl for Zep II over the new remaster. However, for a few tracks - most notably The Lemon Song - the new remaster is my favorite-sounding version ever. The rhythm section is so clear and tight.
ken kantor
Fowl Humor
Well it is Zep
I bought all three boxes that I had not planed on so I'll blame you lol and Kev:nono:
There's some stuff on Led Zeppelin II that could be thought of as being low/fi that I think is intrinsic and couldn't imagine it any other way.
The recording is considered the best Zep effort by Page himself
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Led_Zeppelin_II
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LordOfTRings
Be Cool with the Blues
And I was strictly referring to the records (LPs) here in this instance.
But it does apply to the CDs (including the remastered ones) as well.
No matter how low or how high is your gear, the recording/mixing/remastering engineer remains the same (or not).
The song remains the same.
I finally got my LZ I delux set with 3 LPs so far I heard LZ 2&3 they sound great I cannot believe how clear it is, no crackling what's so ever. It's louder then an original. Much more bass I have to listen without the loud switch. I'll compare them to some original pressings I have.
Got Popmarket bundle of the three standard LP's and played "I" last night. Quiet flat, no distortion. Over all sounded great, may have been a spot or two that sounded congested, but not sure if it was the LP or my cartridge warming up. Sometimes does that until it has a couple sides to warm up. It's comparable to my 200g Classic Quiet-X copy, but quieter, but may not sound quite as good. Looking forward to II and III.. Which I don't have good copies of..
Don't hesitate on these... a definite buy recommendation.
Don't hesitate on these... a definite buy recommendation.
Son-of-Vere
Super Member
Ok, my turn. After a few days of following this thread, I felt I had to get at least one of these and I chose LZ II. I have a copy of this that I scored from a collection, but it's unplayable for the most part. It's got a seed burn on it that melted it thru to the other side. Kinda' fitting in a way.
It's dead quiet, and not a warp to be had. You can barely tell it's spinning. I did have some static pops by the end, but I have not cleaned it on the RCM yet. Playing the two records side by side you can tell they extended the freq. range on it, something I'm happy with. Tone and loudness are set to zero. A claim I can't make with other material. I usually have some amount of loudness, and I can see how some others feel it's a little bass heavy. (No complaints here)
Definitely worth the money, these guys have done an excellent job on this one at least.
If you're on the fence, go ahead and take the plunge. Considering my luck with new vinyl, your chances of getting a good copy are very high.
It's dead quiet, and not a warp to be had. You can barely tell it's spinning. I did have some static pops by the end, but I have not cleaned it on the RCM yet. Playing the two records side by side you can tell they extended the freq. range on it, something I'm happy with. Tone and loudness are set to zero. A claim I can't make with other material. I usually have some amount of loudness, and I can see how some others feel it's a little bass heavy. (No complaints here)
Definitely worth the money, these guys have done an excellent job on this one at least.
If you're on the fence, go ahead and take the plunge. Considering my luck with new vinyl, your chances of getting a good copy are very high.
petes'picks
Super Member
My II on vinyl is distorted.
Just received my LZ II on 180gm vinyl and its awful. Sound reminds me of a tape that was recorded with the levels set to way too high. All the detail is blown out, sounds like I have bass set high and loudness button on ( which I dont, tried lowering bass to -4 and still distorted). In the dynamic portions the highs are piercing. I think Amozon will be getting this one back. I put on a couple of well known records just to be sure nothing was messed up with my system and they played just fine. And I wanted so much for it to be right. The one bright spot is the quitter spots on the tracks sound awesome but once the band starts rocking it all falls apart. Tomorrow I will listen to the first CD which I ordered at the same time, hopefully its a keeper.
Did anyone else get a copy that sounded overblown?
Just received my LZ II on 180gm vinyl and its awful. Sound reminds me of a tape that was recorded with the levels set to way too high. All the detail is blown out, sounds like I have bass set high and loudness button on ( which I dont, tried lowering bass to -4 and still distorted). In the dynamic portions the highs are piercing. I think Amozon will be getting this one back. I put on a couple of well known records just to be sure nothing was messed up with my system and they played just fine. And I wanted so much for it to be right. The one bright spot is the quitter spots on the tracks sound awesome but once the band starts rocking it all falls apart. Tomorrow I will listen to the first CD which I ordered at the same time, hopefully its a keeper.
Did anyone else get a copy that sounded overblown?
As much as I hate to say it, the only copy I've ever heard (LPs and CDs included) that had even sound and wasn't distorted (for LZ II anyway) was the infamous original Robert Ludwig cut which are, in my experience, incredibly hard to come by in good shape for a decent price. I have a beat up copy which I compared to the recent CD reissue and the difference was definitely noticeable. With the CD, there was a tremendous amount of distortion on the hits after the break in Whole Lotta Love.
LZI on the other hand sounded very nice IMO. A little harsh, but still very open sounding.
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BayouTiger
Super Member
I've kinda held out on commenting until I had a chance to sit back and tis ten through. Wow! Much better than I expected! I am getting a bunch of pops and ticks. I need to run them through the machine.
cwall99
Addicted Member
I picked up LZ II earlier this week, and it's a nicely done LP on my rig. Inky black between notes, great dynamics, accurate. If I get any of the others (not a huge LZ fan), I'll download the 96/24 digital files off HDTracks and save a few bucks.
I might not have done this had they re-mastered them in the analog realm, but since it was done digitally, vinyl doesn't make a lot of sense for me. That's just my preference.
I might not have done this had they re-mastered them in the analog realm, but since it was done digitally, vinyl doesn't make a lot of sense for me. That's just my preference.
Son-of-Vere
Super Member
This record will self destruct in........
What happened? After the first play this record now sounds distorted. Very much like Petes description. Was I not listening correctly? Maybe I was too enthralled with the extended bass and highs? Allergy meds?
Checked eqp. with other records, it's OK. Cleaned with RCM. I wonder how I missed this.
I have to stop buying new vinyl! Leave the volume wars crap for mp3s.
What happened? After the first play this record now sounds distorted. Very much like Petes description. Was I not listening correctly? Maybe I was too enthralled with the extended bass and highs? Allergy meds?
Checked eqp. with other records, it's OK. Cleaned with RCM. I wonder how I missed this.
I have to stop buying new vinyl! Leave the volume wars crap for mp3s.
petes'picks
Super Member
Hopefully they didnt rush to make more copies
Hopefully they didnt rush copies to meet demand. I have original copies of the LP and they sound thin, best sounding copy I have of II is an old cassette from the seventies although the songs that were redone for the 1990 boxset sound really nice. I guess I will try another copy just to be sure mine didnt come from a bad batch. (I have a copy the the orig CD from the 80s, that copy is just pathetic). If the next copy is the same way then I guess my only other option will be to bite the bullet and spend a Benjamin on a RL pressing next Christmas.
I just listened to a couple of tunes of LZ I remastered CD and that is a much better remaster. Maybe I should of just ordered CD copies of both. I will now download the MP3 versions that were included with my purchase and do a comparison.
Hopefully they didnt rush copies to meet demand. I have original copies of the LP and they sound thin, best sounding copy I have of II is an old cassette from the seventies although the songs that were redone for the 1990 boxset sound really nice. I guess I will try another copy just to be sure mine didnt come from a bad batch. (I have a copy the the orig CD from the 80s, that copy is just pathetic). If the next copy is the same way then I guess my only other option will be to bite the bullet and spend a Benjamin on a RL pressing next Christmas.
I just listened to a couple of tunes of LZ I remastered CD and that is a much better remaster. Maybe I should of just ordered CD copies of both. I will now download the MP3 versions that were included with my purchase and do a comparison.
kevzep
Its all about the Music
There is no "volume war" , "loudness war", "dynamic range" issues with these remasters.....
These remasters have been extremely well done to retain the original "feel" of the album while bringing a bit of fidelity to it.
My vinyl sounds fat and dynamic......as do the HD versions, although I would say they have EQ'd the vinyl differently, the bass in general is more forward, but in a nice way....
I have the super deluxe issues, and the HD tracks, and it all sounds absolutely brilliant....
There is, and always will be "tape saturation" and "buss squash" on Led Zeppelin II, that is how they mixed the album back in 1969, it was the intention to mix it like that, its brings excitement and tension to the music....
If you guys are hearing this as distortion, then perhaps you don't really like Led Zeppelin, and maybe some Steely Dan might suit you better?
