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Let's talk about Artificial Intelligence. Scared yet?

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This entire thread scares me due to the lack of individual thinking in the context of your God-given freedom to live your own life unencumbered. AI is a human tool...we are not its.
 
Crazy Gnome said:
It's a tool that can be utilized in beneficial and harmful ways. I still have some hope. I just asked it what to do about job displacement because of AI. Which is going to happen so hopefully regulations will be in place prior to it becoming a major issue. I had to ask it twice because the system is bogged down and the answer was slightly different the second time which I find interesting


Give 10 specific examples of regulations that can be enacted to help humans whose job has been replaced by AI
  1. Government-funded retraining programs for workers whose jobs have been displaced by AI.
  2. Tax incentives for companies that invest in retraining and upskilling their employees.
  3. A universal basic income to provide a safety net for workers whose jobs have been replaced by AI.
  4. Increased funding for education and vocational training programs.
  5. Government-funded job placement programs for displaced workers.
  6. Regulations requiring companies to give preference to displaced workers when filling new job openings.
  7. Regulations requiring companies to provide severance pay and other benefits to workers whose jobs have been replaced by AI.
  8. Regulations requiring companies to disclose the use of AI in their operations and the potential impact on workers.
  9. Increased labor protections and benefits for gig workers and other non-traditional employees.
  10. A national AI strategy that includes a focus on addressing the impacts of AI on workers and communities.

The one missing from the first list that I really liked was reducing the work week to 4 days.
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Literally everything in that list is empowering the government to take money from those who innovate, employ, and create, and giving it to those who who either do not, or do so on a lesser scale, thereby stifling the drive for human individuals to push themselves. There are names for those types of societies.... "failed" is one of them.
 
onwardjames said:
Man, this isn't a popular notion, but I don't think you're wrong. What someone recently said to me was that it seems we're headed back into a Feudalist state. That had me thinking for some time.
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And just when we were starting to think that **** was well behind us!
But really it is all within our control still as it is in its infancy, we could still throw this cute little baby out with the bath. It is being sold to us as a miracle of modern times, how you won't even need to carry your wallet, or whatever anymore! :banana:. Just wave your palm etc. When whole classes of products get classified with QR codes, then digital wallets can shut off certain products from the checkout line. Is your cholesterol too high? No ice cream for you! Imagine when AI can use QR codes to shut everything down. It is the ultimate control, makes what has been going on now, the ability to bypass the rule of law with emergency decrees (which AI will eventually be able to do) primitive by comparison.

Best advice for now: Simply Do Not Comply! If we don't go along with it, if enough people say enough, it can technically still be stopped.
 
Heads up! The next 10 years have all been table-gamed already. What you are seeing now was planned a decade, or more, ago. Don't be nice, don't be apologetic or dismissive about your instincts. We were ALL born with a Spidey-sense that lets us know, in the back of our minds, what feels right and what does not. Decide to reject what does not feel right or challenges your sovereign self.
 
AI, good or bad, is going to keep advancing. Even if our own government did want to stop it at a certain point, they can't now. There are too many other governments and entities that won't. So they must try to keep up, or stay ahead. Or it will be used against us by someone else. To me this is scarier than the nuclear arms race.
 
Ai has some thoughts on if the USA will become like China

It is possible that the United States may use artificial intelligence (AI) to monitor and control its citizens, but it would be unlikely to be done in the same way as it is done in China. The Chinese government has been known to use AI-powered surveillance systems to monitor and control its citizens. This is done through the use of cameras and facial recognition technology, which is integrated into a vast network of databases to track people's movements and activities.

However, in the United States, there are laws and institutions in place that are designed to protect citizens' rights and privacy. The use of AI for surveillance and control would likely be met with significant resistance from civil liberties groups and would be subject to oversight and regulation by the government. Additionally, the US has a political system that allows for the protection of citizens rights and allows for the changing of power if the citizens disagree with the actions of the government.

That being said, the use of AI for surveillance and control is a concern that is being raised by civil liberties groups in the US and around the world, as the technology advances and its applications become more widespread. It is important for governments and society as a whole to be aware of the potential risks and take steps to ensure that the use of AI is consistent with democratic values and human rights.
 
Unlikely? Go to the WEF web site and read their plans boldly posted for all to see...then read the list of American corporations attending and advocating for their goals. You're/we're surrounded and the best we can do is resist. Do you think all the small businesses that folded during the "pandemic" was an accident? No, it's to put the corporations I gave you the lead to look up, control of, what, how, and for how much we can buy and participate in our autonomy.
 
MuseChaser said:
Literally everything in that list is empowering the government to take money from those who innovate, employ, and create, and giving it to those who who either do not, or do so on a lesser scale, thereby stifling the drive for human individuals to push themselves. There are names for those types of societies.... "failed" is one of them.
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Government Retraining of workers after being laid has already been proven to be a successful endeavor.
National AI strategy could literally address every single one of the concerns being brought up in this thread.
Universal basic income could solve some basic issues when laid off like eating while creating a whole new underground economy
 
Crazy Gnome said:
Ai has some thoughts on if the USA will become like China

It is possible that the United States may use artificial intelligence (AI) to monitor and control its citizens, but it would be unlikely to be done in the same way as it is done in China. The Chinese government has been known to use AI-powered surveillance systems to monitor and control its citizens. This is done through the use of cameras and facial recognition technology, which is integrated into a vast network of databases to track people's movements and activities.

However, in the United States, there are laws and institutions in place that are designed to protect citizens' rights and privacy. The use of AI for surveillance and control would likely be met with significant resistance from civil liberties groups and would be subject to oversight and regulation by the government. Additionally, the US has a political system that allows for the protection of citizens rights and allows for the changing of power if the citizens disagree with the actions of the government.

That being said, the use of AI for surveillance and control is a concern that is being raised by civil liberties groups in the US and around the world, as the technology advances and its applications become more widespread. It is important for governments and society as a whole to be aware of the potential risks and take steps to ensure that the use of AI is consistent with democratic values and human rights.
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Here is what's happening with regard to that...China and Europe are the models that are coming to America...soon. Remember, as I said earlier, those other countries have serfdom baked into them. It's easier over there. It's coming here. Here's how, internal pressure AND peer pressure from other countries around the world that will be raised up as examples of what we should be. Hell, Canada is already a dictatorship.
 
That isn't going to work. AI does write much more gooder than me so.... Hear is what it says.

There are several reasons why some people may be paranoid about artificial intelligence (AI). One reason is the perception that AI may pose a threat to human jobs and livelihoods, as automation and advanced technology can replace certain jobs and industries. This can lead to concerns about economic inequality and social dislocation.

Another reason is that AI is often portrayed in popular culture as a malevolent force that could potentially gain control and turn against humanity. This portrayal can fuel fears that AI could become uncontrollable and become a threat to human survival.

Additionally, the idea of machines becoming more intelligent than humans and taking over can be unsettling for some people. It raises questions about the nature of consciousness and free will, and challenges the idea that humans are at the top of the intellectual hierarchy.

Lastly, there are also some people who are paranoid about the potential use of AI for surveillance, censorship, and control by governments and other powerful entities. The idea of being constantly monitored and controlled by machines can be a source of anxiety for some people.

It's important to remember that AI is a tool, and it's the way it is being used that matters. While AI does bring new challenges and risks, it also has the potential to greatly benefit humanity by solving complex problems, making our lives more convenient and efficient, and even saving lives.

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What do you think would help calm the paranoid people
There are several things that could help calm people who are paranoid about artificial intelligence (AI):

  1. Education and awareness: Increasing knowledge and understanding about how AI works and its potential applications can help to dispel myths and misconceptions about the technology.

  2. Transparency and accountability: Ensuring that people are aware of how AI is being used and who is responsible for its development and implementation can help to build trust in the technology.

  3. Regulation and oversight: Having clear rules and regulations in place to govern the development and use of AI can help to ensure that the technology is used ethically and responsibly, and that people's rights and privacy are protected.

  4. Open and inclusive dialogue: Encouraging open and inclusive dialogue about the development and use of AI, involving a wide range of stakeholders, can help to build consensus and understanding about the technology.

  5. Addressing the concern of job loss: Addressing the concern of job loss due to automation and AI by providing retraining and education programs, as well as promoting policies that will help people adapt to changes in the job market.

  6. Addressing the concern of surveillance: Addressing the concern of surveillance by promoting transparency and accountability of the use of AI-powered surveillance systems, implementing laws and regulations to protect people's rights and privacy, and encouraging the development of technical solutions that protect people's anonymity.
It's important to remember that AI is a tool, and it's the way it is being used that matters. While AI does bring new challenges and risks, it also has the potential to greatly benefit humanity by solving complex problems, making our lives more convenient and efficient, and even saving lives.
 
How has USA government retraining of workers been utilized in the past
The United States government has implemented various retraining programs for workers in the past, such as the Trade Adjustment Assistance (TAA) program, which provides assistance to workers who have lost their jobs due to international trade. The program provides services such as job training, employment and case management, job search and relocation allowances, and income support for those in training.

Another example is the Workforce Investment Act (WIA), which provides funding for training and employment programs for adults, dislocated workers, and youth. The WIA program provides funding for a wide range of activities, including job training, career counseling, and job search assistance.

The U.S Department of Labor also provides funding for job training programs through the Employment and Training Administration. These programs are typically targeted at specific groups of workers, such as veterans, low-income individuals, and individuals with disabilities.

Additionally, the US government has introduced other programs to help workers transition to new jobs, such as the Community College and Career Training Grant Program, which provides funding to community colleges and other institutions to expand and improve their capacity to deliver education and career training programs.

While these programs have been implemented to help retrain workers, the results of these programs have been mixed. Some studies have found that these programs have helped many workers find new jobs and improve their earning potential, while others have found that the programs have had limited success in achieving their goals.

It's important to note that retraining programs can be costly, and require long-term commitment from the government. Also, the success of these programs depend on the economic conditions and the state of the labor market.
 
What are some benefits and drawbacks of universal basic income
Universal basic income (UBI) is a policy proposal that would provide a regular, unconditional cash payment to all members of a society, regardless of their income or employment status. Some of the benefits of UBI include:

  1. Reducing poverty: UBI would provide a guaranteed income floor for all citizens, which would help to reduce poverty and income inequality.

  2. Encouraging work: By providing a basic income, UBI would allow individuals to pursue education and training opportunities, start businesses, and take on unpaid work, such as caring for family members or volunteering.

  3. Simplifying the welfare system: UBI would simplify the welfare system by replacing existing means-tested programs with a single, universal benefit. This could reduce administrative costs and decrease the stigma associated with receiving welfare.

  4. Increasing consumer spending: UBI would increase consumer spending and stimulate economic growth, as people would have more money to spend on goods and services.
However, UBI also has some drawbacks:

  1. Cost: UBI would be expensive to implement, and would require significant government funding. This could lead to higher taxes or increased government debt.

  2. Inflation: UBI could lead to inflation if it results in a significant increase in consumer spending.

  3. Reduced work incentives: UBI could reduce work incentives, as people may choose to stop working or reduce their working hours if they can rely on the basic income.

  4. Difficulty in targeting specific groups: UBI would not be able to target specific groups such as the elderly or disabled, who may have additional needs that UBI alone would not be able to address.

  5. Political feasibility: UBI is considered to be politically difficult to implement, due to the high costs involved, lack of consensus among political parties, and the difficulty of convincing citizens that it would be beneficial.
It's important to note that UBI is still a relatively new and untested policy, and more research is needed to fully understand its potential benefits and drawbacks. Additionally, the implementation of UBI would require a significant shift in the way society views work and poverty.
 
Sorry last one for now hopefully this is clear enough English and also thorough enough to be comprehended


How would a national AI strategy solve potential negative issues and what would that strategy look like

A national AI strategy could help to address potential negative issues by establishing clear guidelines and regulations for the development and use of artificial intelligence (AI). Such a strategy could include several key components:

Research and development: Encouraging the development of AI technologies that align with national priorities, such as healthcare, education, and energy, through public funding and collaboration with private sector.

Ethical guidelines: Establishing ethical guidelines for the development and use of AI, such as ensuring that AI systems do not perpetuate bias, that they respect people's privacy, and that they are transparent in their decision-making processes.

Education and workforce development: Investing in education and training programs to ensure that workers have the skills they need to thrive in the age of AI and to develop a pool of qualified professionals in the field of AI.

Data governance: Establishing guidelines and regulations for the collection, use, and sharing of data, to ensure that data is used ethically and responsibly, and that people's privacy is protected.

International cooperation: Collaborating with other countries and international organizations to establish global standards and guidelines for the development and use of AI, in order to ensure that AI is used for the benefit of all people.

Public engagement: Encouraging public engagement and dialogue about the development and use of AI, to ensure that the views of citizens are taken into account when formulating policy.

Monitoring and evaluation: Regularly monitoring and evaluating the implementation of the national AI strategy, to ensure that it is achieving its goals and to make adjustments as needed.

It's important to note that a national AI strategy would need to be flexible and adaptable to the changes in the field of AI and the needs of society. It would also require collaboration across government agencies, the private sector, and civil society, and would need to be supported by appropriate legislation and regulations.



I don't think we will end up like China. If anything China will change in a positive way.
 
You're in denial, a poser, or worse, a child of modern "education." A sword in the right hand is greatness. In the wrong hand, evil. We have evil people in the driver's seat of this technology. I did not exaggerate using the word evil.

Free money? No such thing
Re-training=re-education. Where have you heard that before. You? Prob'ly not.

History rhymes more closely than you think.
 
turnitdown said:
You're in denial, a poser, or worse, a child of modern "education." A sword in the right hand is greatness. In the wrong hand, evil. We have evil people in the driver's seat of this technology. I did not exaggerate using the word evil.

Free money? No such thing
Re-training=re-education. Where have you heard that before. You? Prob'ly not.

History rhymes more closely than you think.
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I just used AI in A practical way that wasn't evil. Very quickly too.
 
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