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Mick Jagger is producing a movie on James Brown

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Mick to JB: I'm thinking of producing this movie about you....

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saw this and it was good. I've Mick and Paul McCartney over the years and I like Mick a bit more. He's mellowed whereas Paul is just too ready to talk about anything.
 
For my money, James Brown is one of the most important figures in music ever.

His moves, the polish he demanded of his band, the creation of FUNK, his love of humanity (once breaking up a fight between hippies and blacks at a show by stopping the set and speaking) and the amazing body of work he created.

Prince will be the first to tell you, JB is monolithic in his influence on music.

As a 12 year old kid, I saw him during his "Living In America" comeback period on David Letterman. Now, I didn't know **** from shinola, but I realized watching him do the splits, screaming and rapping, doing his thing, that I was watching greatness.
 
I saw him in 2000, and he still had it.
I don't recall him doing the splits, though. Not that i would expected it him to at that age.:D
 
And just how....many.....times.....has the man's canon of work been sampled?

To quote the late Carl Sagan "....billions and billions..."
 
While there is absolutely no questioning JB's artistic legacy, you could probably find quite a few women over the years who might question his "love of humanity". He was certainly a legendary artist but it is, at a minimum, debatable what kind of person he was. Honestly, I should probably just leave it alone, because the music he created is undeniable. But I guess I'm just not that big a fan of "domestic abuse", a fancy pants way of saying beating a woman.
 
'Sampled,' a nice way of saying 'stolen.'


100% agreed


While there is absolutely no questioning JB's artistic legacy, you could probably find quite a few women over the years who might question his "love of humanity". He was certainly a legendary artist but it is, at a minimum, debatable what kind of person he was. Honestly, I should probably just leave it alone, because the music he created is undeniable. But I guess I'm just not that big a fan of "domestic abuse", a fancy pants way of saying beating a woman.

No argument there, but how many legendary musicians, artists, and historical figures were assholes in real life? Ike Turner has NEVER gotten the respect he deserves in the pantheon of Rock and Roll greats due to his antiquated mindset with females. As for James Brown, I've read that he even had men to "prep" the women he made love to.

Funny story....once JB was relating to Bobbie, his legendary sidekick, his utter and complete amazement relating to white folk and "doggy style."

Rumor has it he said "Bobby, a white man takes his woman from behind!"

While everyone else already understood this, JB was flabbergasted.
 
I guess I just think that we need to at least recognize that assaulting your spouse, and/or assaulting women in general, is something that makes you much worse than a mere "asshole".
 
I guess I just think that we need to at least recognize that assaulting your spouse, and/or assaulting women in general, is something that makes you much worse than a mere "asshole".

I think you are missing the point, we all agree that is deplorable behavior.

While we're at it, let's mention that FDR was a chain-smoking cripple who was married to an active lesbian, and he died with his mistress at his bedside, whereas Hitler was an animal-loving vegetarian who married his girlfriend. Picasso was a pervert, Hunter S. Thompson was a bully with a penchant for drugs, booze, and all sorts of thrills....

See where I'm going with this?? Nobody is arguing wife-beating is anything but bad. When I said he was a lover of humanity, the man was. End of story.

Sucks that he was a wife abuser, but his actions were far from abnormal for the time. Ray Charles, aforementioned Ike Turner, Jackson Browne, the list goes on and on. Terrible, but true.
 
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I think you are missing the point, we all agree that is deplorable behavior.

While we're at it, let's mention that FDR was a chain-smoking cripple who was married to an active lesbian, and he died with his mistress at his bedside, whereas Hitler was an animal-loving vegetarian who married his girlfriend. Picasso was a pervert, Hunter S. Thompson was a bully with a penchant for drugs, booze, and all sorts of thrills....

See where I'm going with this?? Nobody is arguing wife-beating is anything but bad. When I said he was a lover of humanity, the man was. End of story. When the Black Panthers told him to write an anti-white song, he said "I'll write a pro-black song." Which was "Say it Loud...I'm Black and I'm Proud.

What did he get in return? The Black Panthers blew up his apartment.

Sucks that he was a wife abuser, but his actions were far from abnormal for the time. Ray Charles, aforementioned Ike Turner, Jackson Browne, the list goes on and on. Terrible, but true.

Your analogies escape me. Being handicapped is a character flaw? And I believe Hitler had an affair with his underage niece, and is widely believed to have killed her. Also, I believe he has been suspected of some other 'crimes against humanity', some which may be worse than chain smoking or having a mistress!

I also don't know of any substantiation of your allegations regarding Hunter Thompson being a bully, or whether or not Picasso was a 'pervert', which in and of itself may not be a crime.

Your anecdote about James Brown and the Black Panthers doesn't ring true, I'd like to see some links to that info. Why would they expect him to make an "anti-white" song, when that was the source of much of his money?

All this has nothing to do with the depravity of James Brown, Ike Turner, and other criminal assaulters, some of whom may not share their musical talents.
 
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Your analogies escape me. Being handicapped is a character flaw? And I believe Hitler had an affair with his underage niece, and is widely believed to have killed her. Also, I believe he has been suspected of some other 'crimes against humanity', some which may be worse than chain smoking or having a mistress!

I also don't know of any substantiation of your allegations regarding Hunter Thompson being a bully, or whether or not Picasso was a 'pervert', which in and of itself may not be a crime.

Your anecdote about James Brown and the Black Panthers doesn't ring true, I'd like to see some links to that info. Why would they expect him to make an "anti-white" song, when that was the source of much of his money?

All this has nothing to do with the depravity of James Brown, Ike Turner, and other criminal assaulters, some of whom may not share their musical talents.

Perhaps because they were the Black Panthers?? :sigh:

I'm not going to go down this street with any of you, so let's settle this now.

The liner notes of my JB box set (Star Time) is where I think I found that story on the Black Panthers.

Obviously, being crippled isn't a character flaw. I was describing him, nothing more.

Here's all I'm going to reiterate - Separate the work from the man.

There, that is it. Period. The end.

Some of you guys reply like you have Gloria Steinem looking over your shoulder. My wife was beaten by her first husband, so I live every day with the long-lasting effects of this, so give me a break. I stated several times that it is deplorable, wrong, frowned upon, and generally bad.

Jeez.
 
Since I cannot substantiate my comments on Black Panthers/James Brown, I've removed that from my post. I don't think I made it up, but since I can't prove it, I removed it.
 
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