Minneapolis Riots ?

[PPstereo]

Nah, whites didn't start opressing black people because the blacks were so violent, it started long ago, before the blacks had any rights.
And there is still hate-mongering going on today that has no precedent on the reverse.
There are no black mobs hunting down innocent white folks for some perceived offense.
There was no black Klan. Its about folks who have power treating other folks as lessers

This whole thing has been back-loaded for years. C'mon man, be honest about it.
This did not start in 2020, or 2001, or even in 1968 ... Don't try to make the victims be villains.
Sure, there are folks who are born into this world who are flat mad as hell and go off with little provocation.

But there's a lot of decent folks who (somehow) have faith that it can and will get better.
People have to reach out and not give into the "duckits" ... Giving in is EASY - making an effort takes work.

I get the gist of what your saying. And I do agree part of this stems from a long standing issue from before both our times.

With that said, I feel its also being framed in that light to divert from bad actions done by bad people. And bad people have
no race, color, gender so on. They come in all types.

And there are in fact villains when crimes are being committed. That was the one part I really have to strongly disagree with you on.
I simply cant relate to this mentality in any way, sorry.

Im also one of those weird people who feel a crime is a crime is a crime. No additional label needed. And all crimes should be treated the same.
Last I knew thats how a color blind society functions.

Really it goes back to two wrongs dont make a right. And people behaving poorly on either side of these situations accomplishes nothing.

Your remark of Giving in is easy and making an effort takes work. My God I couldnt agree with this remark more. It is exactly why I get so
frustrated by seeing the absence of real deep honest discussions of the many factors at play in all this mess. It also hearkens back to

Effective community policing needs to include stable exemplary mentoring to help break the cycle and invest the community in itself and its larger environment.

And I always scratch my head at why so many of these distressed communities and people never see this mentality and or refuse to acknowledge it.

I dont foresee police, gov services and or agencies fixing much of the damage that is often self inflicted by many, sadly often in poor and destitute areas
on top of things. I really wish there was some soul searching and community out reach and programs put in place by the people for the people to change
how damaged things have become. And like you say, it wont be easy and will require allot of effort.

I absolutely love Chris Rock's bit from his 1996 Bring the Pain comedy show. Black people vs N***as. Its easy to find on youtube for anyone interested.
Ive met ALLOT of black folks who COMPLETELY agree with his point of view on that. And are even more angered by it than most folks.
Ironically enough he cites how theres no black people in Minnesota. It was 96 LOL. Probably why I also love Public Enemy's music. It never goes out
of style IMO. Top shelf rap that preached to its listeners to hold a higher standard for themselves and their community. Again, not easy but well worth the effort.

 

[David_NC]

We weren't talking about that

Oh really? Maybe you can see how I I thought you were..

Not to much stealing in Saudi Arabia either as they cut your hand off in the square, works for me. (still doing this in the 90's when I was there)

 

[hjames]

We weren't talking about that

You were talking about Saudis in High esteem.
They treat women like property too, and have many other bad traits.
I don't put much faith in any of their acts.

Not too much stealing in Saudi Arabia either as they cut your hand off in the square, works for me. (still doing this in the 90's when I was there)

 

[NH-MAN]

Oh really? Maybe you can see how I I thought you were..

Most of the thread was about theft and rioting not gay people.

 

[highvoltage_]

Yes, but the eye for an eye philosophy of punishment soon leaves everyone blind.

 

[David_NC]

Most of the thread was about theft and rioting not gay people.

And I thought it was extoling Saudi Arabia's criminal justice / punishments.

 

[Andyman]

I just saw another video like this.

So sad that so many think this is OK; it sure doesn't help folks come together....
Dozens either stealing or allowing others to steal. How disgusting...

 

[hjames]

I get the gist of what your saying. And I do agree part of this stems from a long standing issue from before both our times.
With that said, I feel its also being framed in that light to divert from bad actions done by bad people. And bad people have
no race, color, gender so on. They come in all types.
And there are in fact villains when crimes are being committed. That was the one part I really have to strongly disagree with you on.
I simply cant relate to this mentality in any way, sorry.

Im also one of those weird people who feel a crime is a crime is a crime. No additional label needed. And all crimes should be treated the same.
Last I knew thats how a color blind society functions.

Really it goes back to two wrongs dont make a right. And people behaving poorly on either side of these situations accomplishes nothing.

Completely agree - Burning down a shop, looting and shooting are criminal acts and need to be punished.
As does shooting an unarmed jogger or choking a guy to death "for selling cigarettes" or for "forging something."

Justice needs to be universally managed and equally administered for it to actually mean something.
If a cop does not get 20 years for manslaughter ...executing an unarmed man in cuffs?
Why would ANYONE respect the law?

 

[NH-MAN]

You were talking about Saudis in High esteem.
They treat women like property too, and have many other bad traits.
I don't put much faith in any of their acts.

I spoke of one specific thing, I am sure Japan which I commented on, does some not so nice things as well and a ton other places in the world

 

[hjames]

I just saw another video like this.

So sad that so many think this is OK; it sure doesn't help folks come together....
Dozens either stealing or allowing others to steal. How disgusting...

Where do you get "Many think its ok" ?
I don't - and I don't think anyone in this discussion thread did.

 

[Djcoolray]

Yeah I also didnt follow the notion of mobs rioting to the equal of good people trampling others to
death trying to escape a burning building.

People panicking out of their senses not wanting to be burned alive seems to have nothing to do
with folks making a premeditated conscious decision to engage in theft and destruction of other
peoples property.

The other sad reality is, folks flooding an exit to escape a fire is also part of their own demise.
Goes back to staying cool under pressure. Like shown in the Great White club fire. Its so sad
seeing loads of people stuck in the door out of the club because they all panic. Had they kept
their cool and tried to exit quickly and calmly so many other lives would have been saved.
And Im sure given the chance to do it over knowing this, they would have happily acted in
their own self preservation to stay alive and not trample and freak out and die as a result.
Well the owns capable of keeping it together in such a moment.

Survival instincts, as in what part of their lives are threatened beyond a reasonable doubt. Many people have had their entitlement to a specific life threatened beyond belief and are reacting as it was a real life threatening situation. Stress over long periods of time causes rigid personalities that can not adapt to change. How many people can go from having an IT job to picking crops to keep enough money in their pockets to live ? What seems to be an emergency to one person may just be an inconvenience to another that is easily remedied by making a hard choice. Many people now can not make the choices necessary to survive and are acting like the house is on fire. That’s why people are acting like they have a hair trigger mentality reacting in survival mode.

 

[highvoltage_]

Where do you get "Many think its ok" ?
I don't - and I don't think anyone in this discussion thread did.

I think he's referring to the people doing the looting.

 

[David_NC]

I actually wonder how many don't see the racial aspect of these deaths or how the officers are dealt with afterwards. When we stop seeing other as having less value than ourselves, much of these deaths and rioting will be gone. This isn't an isolated killing. Here's a good refresher as to why people respond by rioting due to these things still happening: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_Till

 

[NH-MAN]

I just saw another video like this.

So sad that so many think this is OK; it sure doesn't help folks come together....
Dozens either stealing or allowing others to steal. How disgusting...

I would gladly have my taxes go up to pay for prosecuting every one of these scum bags. This cannot be tolerated.

 

[hjames]

I spoke of one specific thing, I am sure Japan which I commented on, does some not so nice things as well and a ton other places in the world

But its all part of the same package -
Sharia Law and harsh punishment.
They don't have one without all the rest of it.

 

[hjames]

I think he's referring to the people doing the looting.

I don't consider that "many" - "Many think its ok"
I think most consider it theft and a crime - and should be prosecuted,
as should ALL theiving bastages - Like Bernie madoff and Enron execs and such.

 

[PPstereo]

Completely agree - Burning down a shop, looting and shooting are criminal acts and need to be punished.
As does shooting an unarmed jogger or choking a guy to death "for selling cigarettes" or for "forging something."

Justice needs to be universally managed and equally administered for it to actually mean something.
If a cop does not get 20 years for manslaughter ...executing an unarmed man in cuffs?
Why would ANYONE respect the law?

Agree with everything you wrote there. And I do hope that cop gets sentenced for that. That was absolutely nuts to watch.

There is simply no reason for SO MANY around this country to blatantly disrespect standing officers and or attack them out
of the blue with no provocation on the officers part. Seeing more and more of that out of New York especially. And IMO these
out of control riots only encourage those performing such acts against the hard working stressed out officers just trying to do
their job and protect the public. These out of control public acts of chaos and anarchy and lawlessness serve no greater good
what so ever! They come off as miscarriage of humanity to me.

 

[sqlsavior]

It is simply one form that protest takes in an ultra-materialistic society. No more illuminating conclusions can be drawn, IMO.

But I haven't read the thread yet.

 

[Andyman]

Where do you get "Many think its ok" ?
I don't - and I don't think anyone in this discussion thread did.

Neither do I think any here think looting was OK. I was addressing the hundreds of participants, active or passive, in the videos. As well as anyone who didn't make an effort to return the stolen goods.

 

[NH-MAN]

All I know is I dont want to keep seeing the race card thrown around here.