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MQ112 - finally!

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It's taken 25 years. It's an interesting item with some nice features. Should make some people very happy.
 
yeah now I can get a c100, or a c200, or a c 500 or even a c1100 . (:

I swear, I kept hearing people say how much better the the two box pre amps were, and I wanted and contemplated several of them, didnt get them because I really do not like the way any gear I have that had a tone bypass sounded when you hit it. so I couldnt do it because tone controls are needed most of the time unless you are a "flat" no highs and no bass" audiophile who likes everything to sound like complete mid-range.

i'll be keeping the c 2300 because I really like it, but this would have MAYBE changed what I got. it's funny while I was debating the no tone control pre amps, I literally wished this exact thing existed, and it even looked like that in my mind.....lol and here it is 13 days after I make the descision.
 
My 50 + year old SAE 11 band EQ has been giving me issues lately. Some times it will work and some times it wont. THe MQ 112 should work perfectly as a program EQ. It would be ued in the record processor loop of my C-34. The C-34 mid high control at 1.5 KHZ which is to low and the 112 ought to do the job perfectly. THere are more low freq controls which ought to give me better flexibility than the C-34 controls and the SAE only goes down to a 40 HZ control which can't solve PIpe Organ recordings on LP and a few CD's. The tilt control reminds me of the EQ controls on my Crown parametric EQ's.

Some of my E Power Biggs recordings could use a little touch up here and there. Plus I don't always like what DBX 121 bass synthesizer does. It may work perfectly with pop and disco music but not so much with classical and some wind recordings. Its horrible with low reeds and double reeds. I guess you could say the 112 is approximately the tone control section out of a C-53. I wonder how much it would cost to make a tube version. That might be very cool even for old dedicated farts like me that have sworn off tubes for the last 48+ years when I got rid of my consecutive pair of 275's. . Why? Because you you couldn't get decent tubes that would last any time at all much less keep them meeting or exceeding specs.
 
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I requested they design one when I was touring the factory with an engineer back @2005. But I suggested it also have a variable loudness and expander (I mentioned DBX). I think the 112 will be a big seller (don’t understand the Tilt feature; surprised they left no room for meters), but I think the price point should be $2K, not $3K.
 
Wish they had used concentric controls so we could adjust each channel individually. That feature was really important back in the days of LP's. Not so much with todays digital recordings which are too closely miked and mostly two bright. It will be fun playing with the tilt feature. Wish it also had a loudness control. But we should be able to come pretty close with using the LF controls. But; having it on one knob would have been so much easier.
 
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Wish it also had a loudness control.

Agreed twiiii. I really wish they had included the old variable loudness feature on this unit. I miss that one feature so much and have seriously considered selling my C52 and getting an older preamp and newer DAC just to get it back.

-Matt
 
Personally I don’t understand the excitement.

True, the MQ112 does allow the listener to adjust (course) different frequency ranges in the music to taste, and taylor the music, for those who like to add bass, soften parts of the vocal spectrum, or correct bad recordings or poor speaker response. It does not allow room correction as most listening spaces are asymmetrical, separate channel adjustment would have been wise IMO. Also introducing this much analog circuitry to the signal path will only create more phase-distortion (more/less depending on attenuation of each octave I suspect).

However the MEN220 or any decent DSP allows this, by channel, and much finer control PLUS the ability to properly EQ/correct a room, correct phase-distortion in a speaker’s crossover, tame or enhance pretty much anything in the music with much more accuracy, create loudness-compensation (not variable with the volume control unfortunately) programs, ... and in many DSPs also save multiple programs for different types of music or listening selectable at the push of a button on a remote while seated comfortably and listening.

If I had to choose one, I’d choose a DSP without question. If I wanted more than my preamp’s Bass & Treble (by channel) controls for the walking up and twisting fun or just an additional piece to fill out my equipment rack maybe the MQ112, but I consider it as well as the similar controls on preamps to simply be an antique technology for those who either can’t understand the technology of DSPs and calibrated mics, or simply don’t want to use the newer technology.

I do agree that the variable loudness, loudness compensation that varies inversely with the Volume control is something that should never have been discontinued as it is the best way to correct per the Fletcher-Munson curve, and that would be welcome in all new McIntosh gear as would be a processor loop to insert the MEN220 within the preamps’ signal path (instead of after).

I will continue to use the convenience of remote-control, the accuracy and adjustability of technology developed after 1960, and the control of multiple saved settings/programs over standing next to my system rack twisting knobs and then sitting back down to see if I got close, then restarting my music after I get it tweaked/right. Might as well also supply it with post-it notes with holes in the middle so that users can make marks around each knob for different music and volume settings, ... like we used to do with the old slide-pot (typically 16 per channel though) EQs.

I just don’t get buying a new system with 1970 technology, seems like you’d be better off buying the 1970 preamp and getting the variable loudness and processor loop.
 
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