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Indeed. I should have hung onto my '63 250SE Coupe, but moreso my '69 Z-28.
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Indeed. I should have hung onto my '63 250SE Coupe, but moreso my '69 Z-28.
930turbo
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Yes we do but traffic is becoming worst every day specially in Manila. But I enjoy driving in the USA specially in Northern California and in the East coast particularly in N J , NY , CT . I wish I can visit my sister in NJ during the spring she got her self an 89 930 Cabriolet should be fun driving around this 3 states. Weather is fantastic during the spring.
hrballenger
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From a collector standpoint, the 1949 Volkswagon Beetle split window coupe ( grey ) that I bought in Germany while in the USAF in 1966, sold 1967, and the
1968 Plymouth Road Runner ( yellow/black, 383 4 speed ) I acquired from my brother in 1969 and traded for a 1970 Fiat 124 Spyder would probably generate more interest.
930turbo
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The 124 Fiat Spider was my 1st sports car given to me by my Dad in 87. Mine was Orange and despite their reputation for unreliability mine was reliable. Use it during med school & attracted a lot of my pretty classmates. It's a rare car in our country . It's a fun car , when I had the chance to drive a Ferrari ( 308 GT4 & 308 GTB) it reminded me of the 124 spider the smell , the switch gear , gauges, the inside door handles, the shift knob . I regret selling the 124 Spider .
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930turbo
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My Dad felt some regret when he sold his 220 SE coupe , it's the same as your 250SE but w/ the smaller engine . He traded it in for a 68 Chevelle Malibu w/ a small 307 cu inch engine. For me the 69 is the nicest model of the Camaro 's . It even influence the design of the current model.
BMWCCA
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1993 911 C2.
One of the last made with the upright headlights. Utah is a great state to drive in. I can go from deserts to mountains in less than an hour.
One of the last made with the upright headlights. Utah is a great state to drive in. I can go from deserts to mountains in less than an hour.
BMWCCA
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Had a succession of Porsche 914/6's:
first was a 1970 silver, rusty, sold it for price I paid, bought 1984, sold 1990.
Second was a 1970 White respray over signal orange (mostly reddish), bought 1991, sold 2014 to a local neighbor who is restoring it.
Third was a 1970 metallic green, all original but oxidized to hell from living in Malibu. Bought 1996, sold 1999.
Fourth is a 1970 Adriatic blue, disassembled by PO (VW mechanic) who had bought it from a Doctor/dentist in Ok. The mechanic drove it a year or two, then tore it apart, rebuilt the 2.0L flat 6, trans (on pallets), sent the chassis/body for complete new paint/underbody coat, then became ill and passed away. I bought it from his widow I think in 2001 and have it still with little work done (never enough time).
Hope to have it look like this eventually:
Oh, I also have a 2000 Boxster S which has been sitting for 9 years now, needs cobwebs blown out. Looks mostly like these internet pics:
first was a 1970 silver, rusty, sold it for price I paid, bought 1984, sold 1990.
Second was a 1970 White respray over signal orange (mostly reddish), bought 1991, sold 2014 to a local neighbor who is restoring it.
Third was a 1970 metallic green, all original but oxidized to hell from living in Malibu. Bought 1996, sold 1999.
Fourth is a 1970 Adriatic blue, disassembled by PO (VW mechanic) who had bought it from a Doctor/dentist in Ok. The mechanic drove it a year or two, then tore it apart, rebuilt the 2.0L flat 6, trans (on pallets), sent the chassis/body for complete new paint/underbody coat, then became ill and passed away. I bought it from his widow I think in 2001 and have it still with little work done (never enough time).
Hope to have it look like this eventually:
Oh, I also have a 2000 Boxster S which has been sitting for 9 years now, needs cobwebs blown out. Looks mostly like these internet pics:
930turbo
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Last of the 911's w/ the upright headlights , Im sure Utah is a great state to drive in specially if one is driving a vintage Porsche. Have not been to that state yet.
930turbo
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Had a succession of Porsche 914/6's:
first was a 1970 silver, rusty, sold it for price I paid, bought 1984, sold 1990.
Second was a 1970 White respray over signal orange (mostly reddish), bought 1991, sold 2014 to a local neighbor who is restoring it.
Third was a 1970 metallic green, all original but oxidized to hell from living in Malibu. Bought 1996, sold 1999.
Fourth is a 1970 Adriatic blue, disassembled by PO (VW mechanic) who had bought it from a Doctor/dentist in Ok. The mechanic drove it a year or two, then tore it apart, rebuilt the 2.0L flat 6, trans (on pallets), sent the chassis/body for complete new paint/underbody coat, then became ill and passed away. I bought it from his widow I think in 2001 and have it still with little work done (never enough time).
Hope to have it look like this eventually:
Oh, I also have a 2000 Boxster S which has been sitting for 9 years now, needs cobwebs blown out. Looks mostly like these internet pics:
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Always wanted a 914 but parts are expensive, same price as that of the 911 of its era, but a 914/ 6 is a special model I wont mind spending to get it right . Its a rare car, have you checked the price of the 914/6 its going up up up
SoCal Sam
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Had a 1978 911SC Targa and an '85 Sharknose coupe with the M Sports package. The SC was copper brown and the CSi was dark graphite. There is something about the old german metallic paint that new cars cannot touch. Also had a 2002 Alpina with fender flares.
Auto technology has really advanced. This level of hp and speed can now be found in today's family sedans.
Auto technology has really advanced. This level of hp and speed can now be found in today's family sedans.
930turbo
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But the new cars in my humble opinion feel isolated , cold , numb and not as fun to drive as the old cars . But they sure are faster . They're design today is not as distinctive like in the past. A Mercedes looks like a Mercedes , right now they all look the same.
SoCal Sam
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True, West German cars were different. The looks were distinctive. The way the cars smelled was different. The way the doors closed was different. Today's German cars look Japanese or Korean or perhaps the other way around. Not sure who copied who but new models look derivative and that is disappointing.
hrballenger
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My 124's ( both that Fiat blue ) were a fun experience also. Had the '70 one and was doing some SCCA Solo I & II with it, working also part time in a Fiat dealership service dept in order to get parts at cost and a partial sponsorship. Traded the '70 for a '71 when they came out with the 1608 cc engine and ran that car in Solo and then SCCA E/PROD for a bit. You're right about the "look feel and smell" similarities shared by the Italian marques. Even the "personalities" of the two were similar I.E. driving them near the limits was a very physically intensive almost forceful thing, although those limits were higher in the 246 and 308. Nothing at all like the almost intuitive response of the 911's. An acquaintence remarked that "you asked the 911 to perform and it did precisely what you asked, you had to almost wrestle the italian cars around to get a response". I explained it as more like "the 911 will happily and instantly deliver you tail first into the weeds if that's what you ask it to do... the italian cars would also deposit you into the weeds but they were complaining and resisting the whole way"
930turbo
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930turbo
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I don't know how it came to be most probably it's due to safety issues . Even when you drive an old BMW you can easily distinguish it from an old Mercedes . This old cars were even durable you still see a lot of 450-560 SL in SoCal . They were made to last for at least 15 years .
My grandfather bought a 280SL in 1968 and sold it to my uncle in 1983. My uncle died three years ago, and now my aunt is the owner. Mercedes-Benz in Sindelfingen restored the car some years ago, and my uncle had to pay about 25000 euros for this restoration back then.
Mercedes-Benz, Audi, BMW prostitute themselves in order to make money. They lost their idendity. They do not build cars anymore for the 60 years old European lawyer or dentist, they build cars for the 30 years old Chinese businessman. From the point of view of design aesthetics this is a tragedy.