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Open Baffle Epiphany!

I almost forgot I heard another open baffle speaker around the same time at RMAF (I went 3 years in a row).
My room was just a few doors down from John Busch and Pano, my brother and I were lucky enough to get an invite to an unofficial demo :deal::dunno::cool: :music: of the open baffles that JB and Pano were working on, they were very good. :thumbsup:
 
I have been searching for your Frankenstein amp and I can't find it?


I had a McAlister Audio SE32 that I enjoyed for several years and the potted PT had a major meltdown, so I started searching for a diy project that would work with the OPTs and built it using 1/2 of 2 input tubes to retain the symmetry and left the 6 unused tubes in their sockets. Frankenstein is just what I call it because it was made from bits of an old amp with some new parts. The gold front plate says McAlister Audio SE44 (he didn't have an SE32 one when he built it).
 
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We used Klipsch Heritage speakers for over 30 years. Somewhat boring.
I bought a pair of Forte 1 in 1987, and used them for 30 years. In 2015, I replaced the crossovers and tweeter diaphragms, with Crites. Listened to them another year or so, and then the internet got the best of me, and I sold them, and moved on - to Decware - speakers and amp. And then through Decware, found Caintuck Randy and the Betsy Baffles. Been with open baffles ever since:naughty:
 
We’ve had quite a few different varieties of open baffle speakers ourselves. Some good, some better. Still have 3 pair.
 
Nice!

Perfect timing with the Betsy’s. I’ve had my Betsy’s in the closet for several years now, and bout to make new top baffles for them (Mine have the full-range and bass baffle separate).
After sitting in a closet for several years, the 8” Betsy Alnicos have finally reemerged. I made new top baffles for them. The main reason I liked the idea of a separate top and bottom, was so that I could swap full-range drivers out from time to time.

The Lii PT-10 is very tough act to follow, but the Betsy’s work their own magic. When I first started playing them, I thought, I did all of this for nothing, cause it sounded kind of flat. But I made some sound adjustments, and finally things got much better, and now I’m hearing what first made me love the open baffle sound.

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Im curious on the Lii Plat 10 do you get good height from the soundstage ? How about the Betsy ? I have limited space but I do have my OB pulled 3 feet out from the wall and at least 3 feet off side walls and the stage is super wide but height is always an issue even with very good source material and gear.
 
Im curious on the Lii Plat 10 do you get good height from the soundstage ? How about the Betsy ? I have limited space but I do have my OB pulled 3 feet out from the wall and at least 3 feet off side walls and the stage is super wide but height is always an issue even with very good source material and gear.
The width is very good, but limited height with both. My room is only 12' wide, so baffles barely 2' - 6" from the front wall.
 
I finished my Open Baffle speakers. F15s on a 1.125 thick solid mahogany baffle. I used the Betsy shape and continued the side arc up to the top and added a blending radius for the tweeter. Legs are maple. As the F15 is full range, I designed the crossover so I can disable the tweeter, run the tweeter direct after the 2.2uF capacitor, or route it thru an L-Pad.

It pairs nicely with one of my RiPol subs.
 

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Every Betsy I’ve seen were barrel shaped. Here is a pic I just took off the net
 

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That's not a Betsy, it is a baffle with a Betsy in it. Betsy is an 8 inch fullrange driver from Wild Burro, they can be used in all kinds of baffles.
See posts above for Betsy's in non barrel shape baffles.
Looks like you have a Lii Song driver.
 
Surf's Up Dude! Let's go!

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I finished my Open Baffle speakers. F15s on a 1.125 thick solid mahogany baffle. I used the Betsy shape and continued the side arc up to the top and added a blending radius for the tweeter. Legs are maple. As the F15 is full range, I designed the crossover so I can disable the tweeter, run the tweeter direct after the 2.2uF capacitor, or route it thru an L-Pad.

It pairs nicely with one of my RiPol subs.
Nice man! How long have you had the drivers and how do they sound so far?

I’ve read over and over that at least 200 hours required for break-in.
 
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