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Prices.... Going Up!!!

Wonder what rent is for those selling now and planning to rent.

Rent in our area is up 35% or more..

If you own more than one house and feel lucky...

You could sell the one you're not living in and hope to pick up a fixer when the market tanks.

We own two rentals and they pay all of our bills.

Not financially beneficial to sell either even at more than double what was paid for them.
 
^^^ Falling cost of lumbar aside, I've been studying this "sky is falling inflationary tocsins" for several weeks, before and especially since we started this thread.

Here's the thing: while there are, undoubtedly, many bubbles in the U.S. economy -- e.g. Bitcoin, the most obvious example -- we also have the proliferation of non-fungible tokens, as well as many stock prices that bear no relationship to plausible estimates of future earnings.

But none of this sets the stage for a 2008-2009 "type" economic collapse. Here's The Story Of The Great Recession, in case any of y'all have forgotten what went down.

In the years leading up to the Great Recession the housing bubble was driving the economy. This was easy to see for anyone who bothered to look at the GDP data the Commerce Department publishes every quarter. Residential construction had increased from its normal rate, which is around 3.5 percent of GDP, to a peak of 6.8 percent of GDP. Similarly, soaring house prices led to a consumption boom, as people spent based on the bubble created equity in their home.

When the bubble collapsed, and housing construction fell to less than 2.0 percent of GDP due to overbuilding during the bubble. There was nothing to replace the loss of 4.8 percentage points of GDP of annual demand (more than $1 trillion in today’s economy). Similarly, the bubble driven consumption boom collapsed, costing us another 3-4 percentage points in demand.

Simply put: the 2008-2009 financial crisis was just the market working its magic on the banks and other financial institutions that had been reckless in issuing and marketing loans.

So, let's return to June 2021.

A similar collapse in asset prices today would have no comparable impact on the real economy. If the roughly $1 trillion market capitalization in the digital currency market went to zero tomorrow, how would that affect the real economy? Bitcoin millionaires and The Billionaires would be disappointed, but who cares and so what? There would be no economy-wide plunge in consumption. The same is true with asset prices in other markets.

Thus have I come to regard most of the opinions and predictions being put forward by (so many!) persons whose only qualifications include (1) working for MSM or (2) managing "A Blog". What they are good at -- very good at in fact, is this: Irresponsible Fearmongering. And that's all.

PS: speaking of MSM sources, one of the worst -- or in this instance best -- examples of a writer spewing Irresponsible Fearmongering is NYTimes "economics analyst" Bill Cohan, an idiot when he's at his best and when he's not, oy.

Up till the 08 collapse, banks were shoveling out home loans to literally anybody that asked for them at the Federal Governments insistence and the banks got burned...who could have seen that coming? Now the government is bypassing banks and sending out money to every single taxpayer in the country and even some that are not taxpayers. Who is gonna get burned this time?
 
Following up... the cost of lumber in The States is falling fast - a sign of easing price hikes across a portion or maye all of the consumer goods and services spectrum in the coming months?

LINK: tinyurl.com/un8bhhwf
futures might be falling fast. the stores aint got the message yet...7/16th OSB 51.85 this am up from last week
 
Prices go up fast and come down suh....low....ly
Wonder if we will ever see a $2 2 x 4 again.
 
(THREAD UPDATE: U.S. CONSUMER PRICE INDEX -- CPI -- THROUGH JUNE 2021)

Yesterday, 13 July 2021, the United States Bureau of Labor Statistics and the U.S. Federal Reserve Bank (St Louis) released their monthly report on the state of the US economy in the form of the monthly Consumer Price Index survey of private household and business sector entities. The report confirms what many herein have been expressing anecdotally: The USA is undergoing a loss of purchasing power which, now sustained for the eleventh consecutive year, has been deemed -- by the BLS & St Louis Fed -- as having entered a state of permanency.

I'll drop a few highlights (toplines) as well as a couple of graphic diagrams culled from the BLS / Federal Reserve report.

First, here's a link to the Bureau's report for any who care to review the BLS/FED data: https://www.bls.gov/news.release/cpi.nr0.htm

Toplines re: the BLS / St Louis Fed Report on the CPI through 30 June 2021:

Overall Consumer Price Index (CPI)

1. The Consumer Price Index (CPI) increased 0.9% in June from May 2021, after having jumped 0.6% in May, and 0.8% in April – all of them the steepest month-to-month jumps since 2009.

2. Exclusing the "volatile" food and energy sectors, the so-called “core CPI” increased by 0.8% from May to June 2021 and, more importantly, increased by 9.5% over the past three months (i.e., March through June 2021) annualized, which BLS/The Fed calls hottest "core CPI” increase since June 1982.

3. By its own calculation, the BLS & Fed estimate that purchasing power of a US Dollar has decreased by 10.7% from March through June 2021 annualized -- the steepest decrease in (US) dollar purchasing power since June 1982.

GRAPH 1: PURCHASING POWER OF U.S. CONSUMER DOLLAR THROUGH JUNE 30 2021

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(Source: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics & U.S. Federal Reserve Bank St Louis, July 2021)

In the opinion (in the report) of BLS and the St Louis Fed, the data depicted in Graph 1 are neither temporary nor transitory and can only be remedied (i.e., "reversed") after a sustained period of deflation. Deflation is, historically, a very rare event in the U.S. economy; it has occurred in only five quarters over the previous 70 years, most recently during a 6-month period in 2008 (note the "little notch" in Graph 1 above).

As it stands, in the opinion of the BLS / Federal Reserve, the only aspect of inflation and the loss of consumer purchasing power of the U.S. dollar that is temporary is the speed with which it progresses, faster or slower, over the next several months.

Durable Goods

The cost of durable goods, which include cars and trucks, appliances, consumer electronics, furniture, etc., increased by 3.5% in June from May and by 14.6% year-over-year, the the largest (measured) increase in this sector since 1957.

The biggest driver of the increased cost of durable goods through June 2021 was the cost of used vehicles:

GRAPH 2: CPI - USED VEHICLES THROUGH 30 JUNE 2021

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(Source: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics & U.S. Federal Reserve Bank St Louis, July 2021)

Summary for CPI through June 2021

In the existing inflation data such elements as the cost of housing are understated despite the housing market also being very "hot", and while the influence (on CPI) of such factors as the cost of used vehicles is expected to be temporary, price increases are already spreading to previously unaffected categories of consumer expenditure, most significantly continued rise in the cost of housing, increasing cost of groceries and the likely continuing increase in the cost of energy.
 
^^^ PS: With respect to June 2021 cost data pertaining to (just) groceries, a friend sent me a link that included a (IMO cheesy) graphic representation of the increased cost of groceries from June 2020 through June 2021. The cited sources are (again) BLS, the U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA), and the ICE Exchange. FWIW here are those data:

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I cannot comment on the accuracy / veracity of these data -- my groceries are procured in France and Luxembourg, where (in both cases) I can assure you the mean cost of groceries overall and for the items listed in the table (above) has not increased by 8%, 6.5%, .5%, 7.5% or 8% for these identical items. Maybe the cost of these items was, a year ago, higher relative to their cost in The States or maybe not, but in all events their costs have not increased -- if they've increased at all -- by these rates over the previous 12 months.
 
^^^ PS: With respect to June 2021 cost data pertaining to (just) groceries, a friend sent me a link that included a (IMO cheesy) graphic representation of the increased cost of groceries from June 2020 through June 2021. The cited sources are (again) BLS, the U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA), and the ICE Exchange. FWIW here are those data:

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I cannot comment on the accuracy / veracity of these data -- my groceries are procured in France and Luxembourg, where (in both cases) I can assure you the mean cost of groceries overall and for the items listed in the table (above) has not increased by 8%, 6.5%, .5%, 7.5% or 8% for these identical items. Maybe the cost of these items was, a year ago, higher relative to their cost in The States or maybe not, but in all events their costs have not increased -- if they've increased at all -- by these rates over the previous 12 months.

I'm sorry....all of that, I've been told , is wrong and just my imagination . As a matter of fact, my 4th of july cookout cost was only 16 cents higher than last year's.......so my receipts were all just a figment.....
 
Prices go up fast and come down suh....low....ly
Wonder if we will ever see a $2 2 x 4 again.

Prices never really come down. They ratchet up. Up a lot down a little.....up a lot.......down a little......ad nauseam. Business is attempting to recover what they lost during the pandemic's lockdown stages. Truth is that money is gone never to return.

The current situation has clamped my wallet shut. I'm paying off the car and the Harley and spending only what's necessary. Was seeking to buy a house but screw that. I have eaten steak 2 times in the past 5 months or so. I won't be forced into overspending just to eat a meal. And I'll tell you what else.......the local deer population is in trouble this fall. I will take every deer I can to fill the freezer. Screw the economy I have to take care of me as no one else will.
 
just have to look for the deals is all, like a recently listed Kenwood KD500 turntable/ Grace G707 arm for $300 that never received a single bid and was just relisted lol.

if I didn't already have so many tables, maybe I should just flip it.

and they say deals are no longer out there, then why do I see them all the time:dunno:
 
And I'll tell you what else.......the local deer population is in trouble this fall. I will take every deer I can to fill the freezer.
I’m curious if you’ve done a cost/benefit analysis of keeping your freezer running all the time.
Of course if you’re going to have it running anyway the variable cost of putting more venison in it is nil.
 
Side note:

The whole damn thing needs to work off a different system so we don't keep cutting down trees to mill more dollars. Up up up up up up mo money mo money is stupid for the environment.

Now back to..........
 
Side note:

The whole damn thing needs to work off a different system so we don't keep cutting down trees to mill more dollars. Up up up up up up mo money mo money is stupid for the environment.

Now back to..........
You’re confusing currency and dollars.
Dollars are virtual, currency is merely a paper representation of dollars.
 
I'm sorry....all of that, I've been told , is wrong and just my imagination . As a matter of fact, my 4th of july cookout cost was only 16 cents higher than last year's.......so my receipts were all just a figment.....

Yeah, I read about that average 16 cents saving on this summer's cookouts. But then, it's the small things that ya gotta look after ... the big things take care of themselves. Monetary policy, taxation practices ... those are a coupl'a big things. :smoke:
 
Of course if you’re going to have it running anyway the variable cost of putting more venison in it is nil.
According to Southwest Public Power District; "A full freezer uses less energy than an empty one because the already-frozen food in it keeps the unit’s temperature low."
 
Well i can say this,milk this time last year was 1.98 gal. last ffew months it has been 2.50, 80/20 ground chuck was 10.98 lb. last year it is now 13.98 for 3 lb.
 
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