Today, my state has the least expensive gas in the U.S.A! Hooray! 
Prices.... Going Up!!!
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Yeah but… you have to live thereToday, my state has the least expensive gas in the U.S.A! Hooray!
stereofanboy
Addicted Member
For me it isn't the difference between $4 and $5 per gallon. Fourteen months ago gas was $2.09 for me and yesterday it was $4.09 and it won't stop there. A month ago it was $3.54 so about three quarters of that increase occurred before the recent hostilities.
A friend told me yesterday about his brother-in-law who wants gas to go up to eight dollars per gallon. I know he is in what counts as the middle class locally with a couple of kids and another on the way, so that surprised me.
Further inquiry revealed that he and his wife both work from home. I admit I'm not too surprised by the lack of empathy for his friends and neighbors. He apparently also lacks imagination and long term memory, since in their previous employments he and his wife each had at least ten miles between home and work.
A friend told me yesterday about his brother-in-law who wants gas to go up to eight dollars per gallon. I know he is in what counts as the middle class locally with a couple of kids and another on the way, so that surprised me.
Further inquiry revealed that he and his wife both work from home. I admit I'm not too surprised by the lack of empathy for his friends and neighbors. He apparently also lacks imagination and long term memory, since in their previous employments he and his wife each had at least ten miles between home and work.
petes'picks
Super Member
Russia accounts for 3% of the oil we use but prices increase 25% in 10 days? For the affordable entry level price of $42k for an electric car, plus $3K for charger install, the $3,500 in tax and $800 plates we can avoid gas prices ( although you will still have to pay 60% of gas prices for electricity to charge them). One major Problem is 90% of population doesnt have $50k in their sock drawers to convert over at this time, not to mention our electrical grid couldnt handle that increase right now and there just isnt enough lithium and battery production right now to even convert 10% of our cars to electric. It will happen but you just cant force it to happen overnight like they are trying, the electrical infrastructure, car factory conversions and battery production need fixing first. We can worry about the extremely high energy process and toxic waste of battery recycling and effects of the strip mining at a later time. 
Still don’t see how you guys can call 2035ish (the round about time most manufactures are shooting for, it’s going to be a moving target) overnight
SoCal Sam
Lunatic Member
Russia accounts for 3% of the oil we use but prices increase 25% in 10 days? For the affordable entry level price of $42k for an electric car, plus $3K for charger install, the $3,500 in tax and $800 plates we can avoid gas prices ( although you will still have to pay 60% of gas prices for electricity to charge them). One major Problem is 90% of population doesnt have $50k in their sock drawers to convert over at this time, not to mention our electrical grid couldnt handle that increase right now and there just isnt enough lithium and battery production right now to even convert 10% of our cars to electric. It will happen but you just cant force it to happen overnight like they are trying, the electrical infrastructure, car factory conversions and battery production need fixing first. We can worry about the extremely high energy process and toxic waste of battery recycling and effects of the strip mining at a later time.
EV mandates are in place in a lot of countries around the world. EV mandate is in place in some US states. Problem for EV mandate is that tides and opinion are turning. Mandate will be soften and become an advisory.
SoCal Sam
Lunatic Member
Still don’t see how you guys can call 2035ish overnight
2030 in UK is overnight.
March 10th 2022 is overnight.
Edit: hell I do a lot of prototyping of new tech with the Navy, even for them 8 yrs is not overnight and they are slow as S$!t…
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$3.73 ish here.. I predict $6+ soon and in California, $10+
rxonmymind
Super Member
To be honest if Americans eat a little less the healthier we will become. NOT starving less but just a little bit less. *Looking at my um...reserves*
Thank goodness. Nothing but open space around me, too.Yeah but… you have to live there
petes'picks
Super Member
THe best a large yacht can do is 10 to 20 miles on electric only. Thats 80 miles short of the Bahamas and about 2200 miles short of crossing the Atlantic. Plus the Navy patrols alot, and uses tons of energy when anchored to keep those solders warm, feed and bathed. I think the Navy should be using that money for other things.
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So they should do something other than their job?
Wouldn’t doing something other than their job be a bigger waste of this money?
petes'picks
Super Member
Navy wasnt created to to be Green Energy Scientists, their job is protect our Country and our Allies. I am all for less pollution and conservation in a meaningful way and its happening but you know good and well the only option for a large battleship to cross oceans and stay afloat for months at a time requires way more energy than a battery pack can provide. Your looking at 100,000 pounds of batteries for less than a day of cruising and you need something to recharge those batteries because a football field of solar panels wouldnt be enough so Diesel and Nuclear are the only 2 options. Somewhere in the distant future maybe but I think everyone agrees we have bigger fish to fry right now.
You apparently do not know how military budgets and research work.
The Navy has been using battery propulsion since the early 20th century, it is still a huge part of submarines, including Nuclear boats. Developing more effective batteries only makes sense.
petes'picks
Super Member
I would like to point out the key word in your last statement, NUCLEAR. Can you give a link to any primarily electric NAVY boat that has crossed an ocean that is able to carry at least 100 solders? Diesel Electric is run by the diesel, without the diesel or nuclear the batteries die in a few hours.
Never mind, you went high and right. It’s called research and development.
Edit: btw the Navy considers the company I work for the OEM for the motor generators that charge the batteries onboard our submarines. I do have a clue about what’s going on
Edit: btw the Navy considers the company I work for the OEM for the motor generators that charge the batteries onboard our submarines. I do have a clue about what’s going on
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Jan 1st 2021, I paid $3.99 for this. Price today:
