Collision, it is.
Prices.... Going Up!!!
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DesertRatt
All Bark, No Bite!
It's true that we "probably won't" go back, but it is certainly possible. After WWII, the US created the entire set of "rules" by which the global economy would operate. There's no technical reason we can't do that again, but time is running out to change. In another decade or two, it will probably be too late.
I would much rather drive the bus than be a mere passenger on the bus.
Power abhors a vacuum.
Those tariffs may never appear , those are barging tool hopefully both sides work together to prevent that ! North American trade is more important than ever with the rest of the world coming apart !
I hope you are right, because that's not what happened last time. The farmers are still suffering from those tariffs and the taxpayers had to shore up the farm base (at least here in Iowa, not sure of other states) because they were all in the red and people still remember the farm crisis from the 80's.
Quadman2
Lunatic Member
I think both of us inserted the "it-may-not-happen" when we shared our thoughts on some of the words used by politicians. However, if severe tariffs do occur, all parties will suffer, some more than others.
Stat-wise it's already been estimated how much and to what degree how trade will affect BOTH countries.
The big elephant in the room is from over there, and is inevitable that... It will react!
Q
DesertRatt
All Bark, No Bite!
The benefits:
Returning as much manufacturing as possible provides better jobs than a service economy.
Manufacturing technology leads to more innovation because "Making things" is more difficult (more valuable) than waiting tables.
Making things strengthens national defense, reduces dependency, and reduces risks of war.
The "rust belt" is the prize we won for exporting our manufacturing. We don't need more of that.
Returning as much manufacturing as possible provides better jobs than a service economy.
Manufacturing technology leads to more innovation because "Making things" is more difficult (more valuable) than waiting tables.
Making things strengthens national defense, reduces dependency, and reduces risks of war.
The "rust belt" is the prize we won for exporting our manufacturing. We don't need more of that.
Quadman2
Lunatic Member
True to an extent, but it does take time (years in some cases) to build plants, educate a work force, and obtain gov't support which depends upon the will of the powers to be.
This is wherein the "Elephant" I alluded to, is able to gain the upper hand in facilitating certain enterprises.
Then one has to take into account labour costs, shipping and access to natural resources, which these cases can give a huge advantage compared to other competitors.
Q
DesertRatt
All Bark, No Bite!
True that! It took 15 years to obliterate our production capacity and I suspect it will take the same to restore it. This is a VERY large ship - it doesn't turn on a dime.
Many of those things that take time were exported in far less time.
Which as mentioned before has already sailed. May get a short port visit but it's unlikely to do another home port shift back to NA.
If it completely sailed there would be no fear of it. Bombs continue to be dropped down the stacks but who knows once aroused. Interesting times.
Yep, how about SK
It's in play.Yep, how about SK
DesertRatt
All Bark, No Bite!
Yes, but even against the long odds, I'm hopeful and optimistic.
Time for me to cue up “American Woman”.
DeadRock
Ideas Guy
A lot of confusing and conflating of Capital's power and state power herein...very different animals...Capital will always "act" so as to grow...independent of what particular states do or do not. Where state action impedes or threatens, it will act in its own interest...regardless of who's "driving the bus".
jayvis
Addicted Member
I don't either. My wife needed some after I bought my new amp last year. It was only $3.29 then.Glad I do not need to worry bout that
