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Random Thoughts or Whatever
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davidhun
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It is hard work. My patch around this is usually 1) Try not to be an asshole (also difficult) 2) Apologize if being an asshole (getting better at this, but not great) 3) Disengage and reflect if that doesn't work (run away! Good at this).
Quadman2
Lunatic Member
It is often difficult for three strangers to set up a living arrangement in close quarters. Along with the three, comes their idiosyncrasies and personal quirks. Some of these one can overlook, others... after a while can become a serious annoyment. This might be adjusted to a degree by a sit down at the start or maybe once a week or so in the attempt to head off any future issues. And keep in mind that you have your needs/wants in life as well, Sjj.
Working days may work out well, but watch out for the weekends, and the visitation of friends for all.
Good luck on your environmental adjustments...and theirs.
Q
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audionerd
Read and thoroughly enjoyed his The Ascent of Money: A Financial History of the World.
DeadRock
Ideas Guy
Man...we're cut from the same cloth. I say...if apologies are foreign to you...then so am I.
spicer
Lunatic Member
Yes, and one can be so broad minded as to be flat headed, versus pointy headed. Some things, even most things are or can appear relative in a relative way while some things, at least a few, are fixed no matter the thought.
spicer
Lunatic Member
Warm fuzzies are wonderful.
Absolutely. Even my dog knows this.
DeadRock
Ideas Guy
If what you mean or intend is orientating toward truth then yes. Otherwise...it's the wankers way of never having to be wrong, ill intended, guilty, or an a-hole. Put another way...if you aren't orientated to truth, you're likely inclined to lying, if only to yourself.because objectivity is subjectively biased.
nailer
audionerd
π and the speed of light for instance.
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DeadRock
Ideas Guy
Truth is not subjective. It is what is both or either established as such or agreed upon as an outcome of desire/willingness to arrive there. Without this, meaningful conversations are difficult, hard conversations are impossible....which maybe why some people hold your position.Truth being subjective varies by individual ... everybody lies.
Some truths are or can be thought of as "eternal"...at least until they are discovered or proved not to be...
Some truths are transitory and/but serve to further the conversation and aims thereof. Transitory truths may prove to be "eternal" or discovered to be not true...and so it goes...and the conversation continues.
You can lie...but not if we're engaged in a conversation about or with serious outcomes. What would be the point?
nailer
audionerd
Truth (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth)
"... truth is typically ascribed to things that aim to represent reality or otherwise correspond to it, such as beliefs, propositions, and declarative sentences."
"A belief is a subjective attitude that a proposition is true or a state of affairs is the case. A subjective attitude is a mental state of having some stance, take, or opinion about something. In epistemology, philosophers use the term "belief" to refer to attitudes about the world which can be either true or false."
"... truth is typically ascribed to things that aim to represent reality or otherwise correspond to it, such as beliefs, propositions, and declarative sentences."
"A belief is a subjective attitude that a proposition is true or a state of affairs is the case. A subjective attitude is a mental state of having some stance, take, or opinion about something. In epistemology, philosophers use the term "belief" to refer to attitudes about the world which can be either true or false."
DeadRock
Ideas Guy
Circular logic, contributing nothing but obfuscation. You're hilarious. We've been here before...I ought to know better.
Pio1980
AK Member
"One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back."
Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World:
Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World:
DeadRock
Ideas Guy
What you fail to see (comically)...is that your position renders you incapable of resolving conflict. A basic tenet of effective communication (and healthy relationship building).
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Quadman2
Lunatic Member
Maybe to dampen the torrid waters of discussion on "Truth" being either "subjective" or "objective"...this term can be considered as BOTH!
It depends upon how the term is used as each POV has a relative support for both, and accepted as such by most modern psychologists.
When seeing the world subjectively, you assess and share the world surrounding you, and how it affects you.
Seeing it objectively, there are certain aspects of this truth that can be measured, observed and even age placed to a person's actions.
Because of the two ways of thinking/assessing, one cannot rule out bias completely, but to a degree it can be controlled. It is really difficult to create tests that are as free as one can attain, but there's always that subjectivity lurking in the background. Being human negates any attempt to produce a bias-free measurement tool Any researcher will admit to this!
Some have shared there's but three "Truths":
What I know is truth. What others think is truth. And then there's the truth! (something to "chew" on)
Q
It depends upon how the term is used as each POV has a relative support for both, and accepted as such by most modern psychologists.
When seeing the world subjectively, you assess and share the world surrounding you, and how it affects you.
Seeing it objectively, there are certain aspects of this truth that can be measured, observed and even age placed to a person's actions.
Because of the two ways of thinking/assessing, one cannot rule out bias completely, but to a degree it can be controlled. It is really difficult to create tests that are as free as one can attain, but there's always that subjectivity lurking in the background. Being human negates any attempt to produce a bias-free measurement tool Any researcher will admit to this!
Some have shared there's but three "Truths":
What I know is truth. What others think is truth. And then there's the truth! (something to "chew" on)
Q
spicer
Lunatic Member
There's the right way, the wrong way, and the army way.
Quadman2
Lunatic Member
nailer
audionerd
What is the position that I'm incapable of resolving?
I'm okay with you finding me comically hilarious.
