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Twenty-five years ago, science fiction author Ted Chiang imagined a future where humans could no longer make original contributions to science—only interpret the work of "meta-humans." With today's AI advances and a rising proportion of mechanistic "interpretability" work being presented at top AI conferences, that future feels closer than we might think.

We're already seeing signs: Two recent Nobel Prizes recognized AI work. Deep learning models predict protein structures and control fusion reactions with stunning accuracy, even as their operations become less intelligible. The standards for what counts as "scientific" may be shifting beneath our feet.

This transition poses questions for three critical aspects of scientific inquiry:

1. Curiosity: If entire regions of science no longer yield human understanding despite improved control, what sustains the curiosity that drives discovery toward surprise, which as science improves becomes a necessarily more potent signal of opportunity?

2. Methodology Diversity: Could AI's efficiency create a mono-culture of research practices, squeezing out the methodological diversity that has historically bred and recombined to fuel continuing scientific advancement?

3. Quality Control: As AI-generated findings proliferate faster than we can evaluate them, how do we prevent onset of an era of unlimited low-quality results that slow or freeze progress?

"After science" science may look radically different, but let us work harder to continue pushing the boundaries of human understanding, even as "after science" science turns inward to study itself.
 
I find that very reassuring.

The interesting scientist called Rupert Sheldrake believes that when plants and animals discover a new survival skill they can pass it on to others around the world thru the consciousness of all things, and soon other members of that species knows the new technique. :thumbsup:
After weeks of battling A I telemarketing auto dialers I realized the only way to battle tech is with tech ! Thank god for the auto silence send to voicemail unknown calls feature on my I phone ! Of course being a fossil I had to goggle the procedure ! Lol
 
Twenty-five years ago, science fiction author Ted Chiang imagined a future where humans could no longer make original contributions to science—only interpret the work of "meta-humans." With today's AI advances and a rising proportion of mechanistic "interpretability" work being presented at top AI conferences, that future feels closer than we might think.

We're already seeing signs: Two recent Nobel Prizes recognized AI work. Deep learning models predict protein structures and control fusion reactions with stunning accuracy, even as their operations become less intelligible. The standards for what counts as "scientific" may be shifting beneath our feet.

This transition poses questions for three critical aspects of scientific inquiry:

1. Curiosity: If entire regions of science no longer yield human understanding despite improved control, what sustains the curiosity that drives discovery toward surprise, which as science improves becomes a necessarily more potent signal of opportunity?
>>>> We name ourselves the "tool maker". I think what drives us to make tool is our need to solve selfish problems. Our tools have become beyond general understanding. How many know the math, physis, material composition in how flipping a switch and there is light?
AI is just another tool. One may ask now the sun is dying, how do I go to another galaxy? How do I get grow hair back on my head? How do I kill that lion with my bare hand? How to steal that cookies off the dinner table without getting caught? How so I defend against X? How do I live forever?

2. Methodology Diversity: Could AI's efficiency create a mono-culture of research practices, squeezing out the methodological diversity that has historically bred and recombined to fuel continuing scientific advancement?
>>> There will always be human needs, and it will fuel tool advancement. What will we become when we have no desire or need?
3. Quality Control: As AI-generated findings proliferate faster than we can evaluate them, how do we prevent onset of an era of unlimited low-quality results that slow or freeze progress?
>>> Give a man an inch and he will want a foot....
"After science" science may look radically different, but let us work harder to continue pushing the boundaries of human understanding, even as "after science" science turns inward to study itself.
Very good questions here :thumbsup:
 
Not a random thought...but along the line of going below the first layer of thinking ...bout someone asking about "Quantum Physics" in a recent thread.

And seems we DO have quite a few well versed "experts" on board, eh? Future Hawkings"


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After weeks of battling A I telemarketing auto dialers I realized the only way to battle tech is with tech ! Thank god for the auto silence send to voicemail unknown calls feature on my I phone ! Of course being a fossil I had to goggle the procedure ! Lol
Well so I thought then came 15 more calls ! Told my boss he added google screening works great ! Calls not in your directory on you phone are questioned by ai if they don’t answer hangs up or goes to voice mail if they leave s message , no ring or buzz !
 
I remember in grammar school, at the start of 5th grade, the teacher made us get in front of the class and talk for a couple of minutes. "What I did last summer or something special that I do."

Bobby B (we called him "BB") went to the front and said, "I can turn my eyelids inside-out!" The teacher nervously said, "No, that's okay, Bobby. You don't need to do that."

"Hey! It's easy for me!"

MAN! All I remember is those giant eyeballs and pink inner eyelids! Stuff of nightmares.

He was able to go back to normal. I think the teacher had to take a break.
 
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Thanks to Nairobi, I am again in love with Kentucky Fried Chicken.

Here, they make it the way America made it in the Sixties ... even -- even !!! -- the original recipe.

Sure, they also offer all of the weird sides and the (even) weirder sandwiches 'n **** that Pepsi Co. forced 'em to drag into the joints.

But they do get basic fried chicken RIGHT.
 
I can’t post my random thoughts here for various reasons.

My not so "random Thoughts"

If you believe those thoughts go against the AK rules, then yeah, it's best to keep them to your self.

Also, Mr. B, let's not go down the road of encouraging folks to post in foreign language(s) to attempt to evade the rules, we all have translation software available so that wouldn't work anyway ;)
 
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