I'm not sure what final IPA concentration you want, but if 15%, leave out 573.5 ml of water and add that amount of 99% IPA to the mix (a gallon is about 3785.4 ml).
Record Cleaning: Developing the Best Possible Methods
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Kico
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Thanks Vince. I think 15% is little high for my tastes, so I'll adjust down to around 10% and call it a day. Again, many thanks for sharing your knowledge and expertise with the members here on AK...it is much appreciated!
Trekmaster
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FWIW Since the alcohol comes in 16 ounce bottles I go with 8 OZ in a gallon. That way I get 2 batches per bottle. It seems to work well so what is that? Math cap on..........6% or thereabouts. 
I like this approach. Simple, and an alcohol level that I'd be comfortable with. I'm wondering though, how does one go through a gallon quickly? Is this for a bath-based apparatus like a SpinClean or Ultrasonic cleaner?FWIW Since the alcohol comes in 16 ounce bottles I go with 8 OZ in a gallon. That way I get 2 batches per bottle. It seems to work well so what is that? Math cap on..........6% or thereabouts.
Trekmaster
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I just got my Squeaky Clean MarkIII to replace my diy vacuum method Saturday. I just use the gallon mix as my base. I add the base to my bottle that I use on the records and then I'm adding the concentrate to the bottle. I've been on the same gallon for about 3 months now and it's not quite half gone.
I got 2 new applicators the other day one for spreading the cleaner and one for the rinse. So I'm using much less than I was when I was using the paint pad.
Timothy Flath
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Curious - I have been liking the paint pad cleaner as it seemingly provides more scrub area and I have been very pleased with the results. I think what I am hearing in this thread is that mechanical scrubbing is about as much part of the cleaning process as the chemical detergent/enzyme clean phases plus DH2O rinse as that is what dislodges the gunky stuff. I would think with a flimsier brush that you will not get as good mechanical massaging down in the grooves that is required. Can some folks comment on my assumptions SVP? Does the greater number of bristles on a paint pad cause increased risk of damaging the vinyl etc?I just got my Squeaky Clean MarkIII to replace my diy vacuum method Saturday. I just use the gallon mix as my base. I add the base to my bottle that I use on the records and then I'm adding the concentrate to the bottle. I've been on the same gallon for about 3 months now and it's not quite half gone.
I got 2 new applicators the other day one for spreading the cleaner and one for the rinse. So I'm using much less than I was when I was using the paint pad.
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Another question regarding Distilled H2O (which I understand by convention is DH2O) vs De-Ionized H2O (or DI H2O). I work on a military Base up here as a Liaison for Capital Projects and we are in the middle of delivering a very large Maintenance Facility Work Package which among a great many complex systems has a state of the art De-Ionized Water plant. During acceptance walk-thru's I heard it being said that DI H2O is very pure but is considered a very aggressive solvent. I could easily get my hands on a jug of the stuff but wonder if it is more harmful than DH2O for cleaning LPs because of its aggressive need to soak up/leach ions and stuff?
By the way just got my Triton X-100 from a very kind fellow here on AK - shout out to him for his generosity in helping me get something that is not so easy to obtain here in Canada. Mixing first batch today which is why I am back to revisit Dr. Vince's recipe...
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Trekmaster
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I have used both and IMHO I would say that I've had records that needed more than one cleaning using both methods. But overall I like the smaller brush but whether it's any less effective getting in the grooves I can't say as I don't have any resources to prove whether it does or does not other than what I hear. But so far the results have been at least as good as the PP. I'll be interested as well as to what other people's experiences are.
Timothy: There's little risk to vinyl when using a soft paint pad as it is softer than the vinyl. Also, DI water is great. Not sure who was providing the info, but it is not a strong solvent for organics at all, in fact it is quite weak. Normal water (with ions) is a better cleaner, but it is undesirable as it may leave behind mineral residues.
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As I understand it, De-Ionized water is cheaper to make than Distilled water. I hear that the semiconductor industry uses it to rinse their products. But Distilled water is cheap enough for me and is readily available to us consumers in drug stores and even grocery stores. I would not know where to go to buy De-Ionized water, therefore I cannot verify that it's actually cheaper than Distilled water.
And what could be purer than Distilled water, it's nothing but H2O. But that's not likely true soon after you open the jug.
And what could be purer than Distilled water, it's nothing but H2O. But that's not likely true soon after you open the jug.
Hi Timothy. I tried ordering from Biobasic and indeed they have the X-100 but they refused my order and refunded my credit card when I could not provide a business registration number. They did direct me to other possible sources such as Sigma and Bioshop. Since I am in the Toronto area, I also looked at the University of Toronto Med Store. The Med Store has better prices for Bioshop product than you can get on the Bioshop site but you need to be a student, doctor, or member of an affiliated institution. Bioshop demands a company name as well. Very annoying. Sigma also wants to call and ask the nature of your business before allowing a first purchase.
The Canadian Conservation Institute in Ottawa recommends Tergitol. May be worthwhile calling them to find out where to source it?
Amazon Canada has Triton x-100 listed (from IBI). Currently out of stock, but you can order.
Don't bother with Sigma, you need to be a research lab or manufacturer to purchase.
ripblade
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Talas Online has Tergitol and will ship to Canada. It's expensive though, so arranging a group buy is a good idea, or you can rebottle the extra and sell it locally to make up the difference.
I have been using Alconox-Liquinox as detergent for a 1st cleaning with dirty records. the web page description is this:
Liquinox consists primarily of a homogeneous blend of sodium linear alkylaryl sulfonate, sodium xylene sulfonate, and ethoxylated alcohol. Liquinox is anionic in nature.
Liquinox consists primarily of a homogeneous blend of sodium linear alkylaryl sulfonate, sodium xylene sulfonate, and ethoxylated alcohol. Liquinox is anionic in nature.
Timothy Flath
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I managed to get my Triton X-100 from a kindly gentleman in the US who had a little extra so I didn't follow through with the order. No doubt it would have ended up being a dead end for me too living out west here...
arts
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I tried dealing with Talas during my quest for Tergitol. The least expensive shipping method they would offer cost approximately 3x the value of the product I wished to purchase.They insisted upon using some super-duper grade of parcel post,despite other, far less expensive postal options being available. Took my business elsewhere.
As I recall,ServoCity tried to pull the same thing,with $50USD postal shipping for a $100USD order that would have fit in a Kleenex-box.
And like Talas,they couldn't have cared less about losing a sale either.
Amazon.com has at least 2 vendors with stock of Triton X-100 that will ship to Canada, but the price with shipping and the now painful currency conversion makes me think twice. If I could split the bottle, then maybe. I will look into Tergitols next.
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