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Schiit Fans ?

2 Months Later...


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Latest on the Urd...

It is NOT here yet but coming :) per Jason Stoddard 2 days ago

Seems it will be more than just a transport... Digital Hub is where they are heading


Nada, Nothing new :dunno:

This may be another one of their ideas that may get scrapped even after much time and $$$
 
I wonder how much the brand-name pun potential factors into buying decisions?

People never seem to get tired of making those jokes.
 
I ordered a Modi 3+ last week after selling a pair of 1971 Klipsch H700 Heresies. It arrives tomorrow. It will be interesting to compare and contrast against the Burr Brown DAC in my AVR; I'll be using the Schiit with my tube amp for 2 channel, while the AVR will be used for the occasional multi-channel content.
 
I just picked up my Modi 3+ at the post office. I knew they were small, but damn, it’s so stinking cute! It practically fits in the palm of my hand.
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granted, at 6’8”/203cm tall, my hands make everything look small, but I’m not sure that I was prepared for how tiny it is. Ironically, the small size of this, along with my amp switcher and phono pre will create placement issues that wouldn’t be a problem if they were 17”w x 12”D. I may have to get creative.
 
Well, that was anticlimactic. The Modi doesn’t recognize any of my sources: MacBook Pro into usb c 1, iPhone or iPad info usb c 2 or my Oppo BDP 83 via toslink. it lights up and switches, but no sound. All of the cables and interconnects are new. I’ve googled for answers and nothing. System profiler doesn’t even see the device on my MacBook, nor does my system preference panel. I even restarted. I’m stumped.
 
Well, that was anticlimactic. The Modi doesn’t recognize any of my sources: MacBook Pro into usb c 1, iPhone or iPad info usb c 2 or my Oppo BDP 83 via toslink. it lights up and switches, but no sound. All of the cables and interconnects are new. I’ve googled for answers and nothing. System profiler doesn’t even see the device on my MacBook, nor does my system preference panel. I even restarted. I’m stumped.
You've selected the correct input on the Modi? Are you using the power adapter? I have the 3, not 3+ and I use the power adapter. Assume the 3+ has that option.
 
Well, that was anticlimactic. The Modi doesn’t recognize any of my sources: MacBook Pro into usb c 1, iPhone or iPad info usb c 2 or my Oppo BDP 83 via toslink. it lights up and switches, but no sound. All of the cables and interconnects are new. I’ve googled for answers and nothing. System profiler doesn’t even see the device on my MacBook, nor does my system preference panel. I even restarted. I’m stumped.

From the FAQ page:

"So what platforms does your USB input support? I want full details.
Actually, the question should be “What platforms support your USB input?” since Unison USB is 100% UAC2 compliant (that is, USB Audio Class 2, the accepted standard for USB audio transmission.) So, here you go:

  • Windows. Windows 10 or 11 are plug and play with our DACs.
  • Mac OSX. From 10.7 on up, you’re set.
  • iOS. From iOS7 on up, iOS devices work with our DACs using a Lightning to USB3 Camera Adapter, if they don’t already have USB-C.
  • Android. You’re most likely set with any modern device. Some may require separate player software, like USB Audio Player Pro.
  • Linux. Most Linux distros that support UAC2 natively will be plug and play with our DACs. Please note that we cannot provide detailed technical support for all Linux variations.
  • Roon. Roon recognizes our products and is plug and play.
  • Most streamers. Most streamers are Linux-based, so they have no problem with our USB input."
Plus, did you select the Modi in System Prefs?

Hopefully, it's not DOA? But, Schiit will take care of you.
 
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Just a thought as I’ve had and used the Modi. It appears as if your computer is not recognizing the Modi. I’d be surprised if it’s “bad”, but there’s always an exception. If you go to sound in I think it’s system set-up (I’m not near my puter ATM). and select “external device”, again not sure of verbiage, but I think this is your issue. The Modi needs to show up in the “sound” preferences. I might be all wet here, but that’s my experience with this device, as I had the same issue.
Good luck.
 
It doesn’t appear in either the sound preferences or in the system profiler. I’ve tried it on two laptops, an iPhone, an iPad and my disc transport; it doesn’t work with any of them. The Zoom TAC-8 DAC that I use in my home studio shows up just fine on my laptops as does the DAC in my AVR with both my laptops and iOS devices. ‍♂️
 
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@Gigantic

Bummer

I'm sure when you contact Schiit they will help either by getting the setup right or replacing/refunding
I opened a customer support ticket and received a reply from Schiit's Daniel Katz last night. Unfortunately, he was unable to offer a solution that I hadn't already tried, but I'm duly impressed with the speed of their reply. I've tried enough different hardware options that I'm relatively confident that the issue isn't on my end, but I'm going to try to hook it up again to a different amp in my studio tonight, to be sure. I'll also hook up my recording DAC to make sure that it's not a hardware issue with my MacBooks.
 
It seems by the reviews and from Jason Stoddard's own mouth the Bifrost 2/64 is very very close in SQ compared to the Yggdrasil LiM... why waste the extra $$$ for most of us*

*People with less than $50K systems
 
I figured out what was going on and I'm slightly frustrated by it, as the configuration, documentation and hardware implementation by both Schiit and Apple is poorly implemented and explained. It turns out that Apple requires a lighting to USB3 dongle to connect iOS devices to USB C inputs. I had to do a fair amount of digging to discover this, as it is not particularly well detailed by either Schiit or Apple. I'm not thrilled to have another device in the chain and frustrated that I couldn't just use a Lightning to USB C cable, but we'll lay most most of that on Apple, but given the proliferation of iOS devices and the growing market share of Apple Music as a streaming service, Schiit ought to feature that detail more prominently and have a better documented FAQ and trouble shooting section.

Another issue I had related to their use of USB C for a power input cable. It's neither clear nor intuitive which serves as an input and which does double duty and I was flummoxed by its implementation. Using a standard center negative power plug would have made this a non-issue.

Finally, I hooked up my Oppo BDP-83 via a TOSLINK SPDI/F cable. The disc inside it was Beck's Sea Change, in SACD format. What I hadn't realized was that thanks to Sony's overly restrictive licensing, digital SACD info can't be transmitted via SPDI/F cables. Since I'm new to the format- I digitized all of my media 16+ years ago and never had an SACD or Blu-Ray player, much less a transport and DAC, I own my ignorance on the matter, but also fu Sony. That was solved using an HDMI/Audio splitter that I happened to have on hand, running the TOSLINK from the splitter to the MODI+. Again, I'm somewhat frustrated to have another device in the chain, but it works.

Initial impressions are good enough. I've only listened to it in my spare bedroom recording studio, via my Glow Audio Amp Two EL84 valve amp, through a pair of somewhat ancient KRK K-Rok near field monitors. At 3 feet apart and 3 feet away, imaging and staging was excellent; I only experienced one jittering hiccup, that was probably related to my iPad going to sleep, than the DAC, but I haven't yet replicated it. Next step is to run it into my Marantz AVR and Super Heresy speakers and compare and contrast it to the Burr-Brown DAC, there. I'll be able to get a much better impression there, as the superior speakers are less flat than the monitors, the listening position, speaker spacing and toe-in are better and I'm generally more familiar with the other gear involved.

Also, kudos to Schiit for their prompt responses, although I regret that contacting them was even necessary. Improved documentation on their website and manuals, not to mention a better, more intuitive input interface, would likely have rendered this ordeal unnecessary.
 
It seems by the reviews and from Jason Stoddard's own mouth the Bifrost 2/64 is very very close in SQ compared to the Yggdrasil LiM... why waste the extra $$$ for most of us*

*People with less than $50K systems
I fit into this category (*), but made the purchase of the LiM early this summer. For me, the Adapticlock feature that all the Yggy's have and the Gungnir used to have, were a major selling point. To each their own, but I enjoy the LiM immensely and am pleased to own it.
 
Moved it into my main system last night, and first impressions at wife approved volume were that it had a brighter presentation than the burr brown in the AVR, which seemed veiled by comparison. in all fairness, the system was not optimal that the volumes she tolerates- probably 55 dB or so. Will have to wait until she's out to get a proper demonstration.
 
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