Show Us Your Sonys!!!
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Unda Maris
Mr. V-FET
Glenn,
don´t forget to run the TA-N86B in Class A, it makes really a big difference !
don´t forget to run the TA-N86B in Class A, it makes really a big difference !
Glenn, shouldn't you be thinning out your collection in preparation for your move?Yamaha B-2 said:
I was watching those myself but finally decided to pass based on their condition. Hopefully the N86 will be an easy fix. If so you got a good deal even considering that they are a little rough.
The 'move'. This is a story only a person married for a long time will appreciate and understand. Those married for a shorter period of time would simply kill their wife and be done with it.
After all we went through getting the house perfect for sale, my wife has decided that we will not move unless we get full price for the house. Even in this down market. She has decided that it is priced too low. And, believe me.....that's great as far as I'm concerned.
I'm busy painting my listening area and should be done next week. 
Then I have move everything around. After that effort you can believe that I will not be moving any time soon. We have struck a deal. She doesn't retire for three more years. No move until then. We are renting the new place. This is absolutely the best thing that could have happend. :thmbsp:
As far as repairs, sounds fairly simply and Axel has lots of good info on TVK. But, we shall see.
After all we went through getting the house perfect for sale, my wife has decided that we will not move unless we get full price for the house. Even in this down market. She has decided that it is priced too low. And, believe me.....that's great as far as I'm concerned.
I'm busy painting my listening area and should be done next week. Then I have move everything around. After that effort you can believe that I will not be moving any time soon. We have struck a deal. She doesn't retire for three more years. No move until then. We are renting the new place. This is absolutely the best thing that could have happend. :thmbsp: As far as repairs, sounds fairly simply and Axel has lots of good info on TVK. But, we shall see.
LOL, been there, done that, got the T-shirt. Coming up on 20 years of married bliss I can certainly relate. Sounds like it has all worked out well for you in the end though. There is almost nothing I hate as much as moving. Coming from a long line of pack rats the very thought of moving brings up memories that I would much rather not have.Yamaha B-2 said:Those married for a shorter period of time would simply kill their wife and be done with it.
dimiter petrov
New Member
Hi from Dimiter Petrov. I have icr-120 full set for trade. Please advise me for axceptable price.I cann e-mail foto. bst rgds fm d.petrov(dpetrov@crc.bg)
absolon
Super Member
The dog barked about 6:00 this morning and heard a truck idling up on the street. Got up to find a package on my doorstep. Seems the agreement to ship by mail and the higher cost I paid went out the window and Fedex was used; I guess I'll have to wait for the bill for brokerage to arrive in the mail.
Opened it up, lightweight packaging and some sprung joints on the case but no big loss as after seeing it it is headed for the trash. Fortunately no damage to the faceplate and it is in very good condition.
Wouldn't you know it, the seller's name is Vlad.
Hooked it up for a quick test and no lights or sound though the tuning meters moved. After working all the controls repeatedly I got first one channel and then the second. Eventually the meter lights cut in, but no dial or stereo indicator lamps. Going to need a good going over before it goes into service.
It's a beauty! Stereo works flawlessly on the tuner. I installed a yagi and rotator on my shop in anticipation of it's arrival and reception is simply fantastic. So far, sound quality betters the 6060 and I've not yet hooked it to my Kirksaeters. Tried a CD on one of the Aux inputs and also works but had two brief dropouts. With a bit of luck that will require nothing more than cleaning contacts and switches to remedy.
I'm pleased; I was expecting worse.
Opened it up, lightweight packaging and some sprung joints on the case but no big loss as after seeing it it is headed for the trash. Fortunately no damage to the faceplate and it is in very good condition.
Wouldn't you know it, the seller's name is Vlad.
Hooked it up for a quick test and no lights or sound though the tuning meters moved. After working all the controls repeatedly I got first one channel and then the second. Eventually the meter lights cut in, but no dial or stereo indicator lamps. Going to need a good going over before it goes into service.
It's a beauty! Stereo works flawlessly on the tuner
. I installed a yagi and rotator on my shop in anticipation of it's arrival and reception is simply fantastic. So far, sound quality betters the 6060 and I've not yet hooked it to my Kirksaeters. Tried a CD on one of the Aux inputs and also works but had two brief dropouts. With a bit of luck that will require nothing more than cleaning contacts and switches to remedy.I'm pleased; I was expecting worse.
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Congratulations on its safe arrival and performance. Brian was not so lucky with his. While not quite up to the tuner you show below the STR-6200F in the photo, it is the best of any receiver I've owned. Wonderful reception and a wonderful sound. :thmbsp:
Here is some additional comparison info from another owner who has both a 6200F and a 6120. Not a mere mortal, he actually got into it and measured the filter slopes, etc.
From what I remember the last time I laid them side-by-side, the tuning gangs are identical, except that the 6120's is in front and the 6200's is on the side of the chassis. Everything else is similar. The IF strips are spot-on identical except that the 6200's has one of the lines coming in connected through a resistor hanging off the board. The biggest difference I can see (only have the schematic for the 6120) is in the power amps where the 6200 has much better heat sinking.
Speaking of IFs (favorite topic), did you notice that the 6200 seems to snap in and out of stations? I at first thought it must have AFC. I mentioned that I found that its IF filter slopes are the steepest I've tested (30% steeper than the ST-5000F). This IF strip is similar to the ST-5000F, except with a forth filter module. The 6120 schematic shows these modules to contain 2 ceramic filters each. I believe these are the same as the Murata-labeled modules in the 5000F despite the 5000F manual calling them 4 element modules (noted by Mike Z).
Speaking of shielding, the ST-5000F is what you may be thinking of, it's the best shielded tuner I have and one of the most attractive inside that I've seen. The tuning gang cover has a soft copper pad that presses against the section dividers, sealing them along the top edge. I've never seen anything like this before. Maybe the HAM guys and engineers have an insight. The Later Sony tuners have plastic covers over the tuning gang (ST-5130) or no cover at all (STR-V6?).
Here is some additional comparison info from another owner who has both a 6200F and a 6120. Not a mere mortal, he actually got into it and measured the filter slopes, etc.
From what I remember the last time I laid them side-by-side, the tuning gangs are identical, except that the 6120's is in front and the 6200's is on the side of the chassis. Everything else is similar. The IF strips are spot-on identical except that the 6200's has one of the lines coming in connected through a resistor hanging off the board. The biggest difference I can see (only have the schematic for the 6120) is in the power amps where the 6200 has much better heat sinking.
Speaking of IFs (favorite topic), did you notice that the 6200 seems to snap in and out of stations? I at first thought it must have AFC. I mentioned that I found that its IF filter slopes are the steepest I've tested (30% steeper than the ST-5000F). This IF strip is similar to the ST-5000F, except with a forth filter module. The 6120 schematic shows these modules to contain 2 ceramic filters each. I believe these are the same as the Murata-labeled modules in the 5000F despite the 5000F manual calling them 4 element modules (noted by Mike Z).
Speaking of shielding, the ST-5000F is what you may be thinking of, it's the best shielded tuner I have and one of the most attractive inside that I've seen. The tuning gang cover has a soft copper pad that presses against the section dividers, sealing them along the top edge. I've never seen anything like this before. Maybe the HAM guys and engineers have an insight. The Later Sony tuners have plastic covers over the tuning gang (ST-5130) or no cover at all (STR-V6?).
My understanding is that the 6120 has capacitor coupling on the output while the 6200 is direct coupled. The latter's need for DC bias might explain the designers' use of larger heat sinks on the output transistors.
I noticed that my 6200 does snap in and off an FM station as you described. The extra selectivity might explain that.
I noticed that my 6200 does snap in and off an FM station as you described. The extra selectivity might explain that.
I did...thought there would be more of us than 7! C'mon out of the closet you Sony amp users! 
lordfoo
Active Member
I have two new Sony's (in addition to the VFET TA5650 and TA4650).
A tuner, Sony SA50ES.
And just this week, an Old Turntable that i want to restore (that i got as a lot along with 100+lps and almost 90 pieces of old 7 inch reel tapes.
Here's the Sony turntable PS1800a.
Its a scratched unit that needs to be restored. Cool cat in the pic.
A tuner, Sony SA50ES.
And just this week, an Old Turntable that i want to restore (that i got as a lot along with 100+lps and almost 90 pieces of old 7 inch reel tapes.
Here's the Sony turntable PS1800a.
Its a scratched unit that needs to be restored. Cool cat in the pic.
Brian
An Old Geezer
GET THAT CAT OFF THE TABLE! That's the TTS3000 are both rare and excellent. Was brought out when Sony was establishing itself with the likes of the 5000 tuner, etc. and easily went head to head with the Thorens TD125 and I liked it better than the Garrard 301 and 401. The arm is not worthy of the table but when set up correctly was very respectable.
hekoman
New Member
I am kinda new around here. I have mostly got started in vintage electronics because I am a poor college student and i do not have the money to buy anything new. But then I realized just how awesome some of the stuff sounded and I was hooked.
The stuff that I have is not as quite as old as some of the stuff that I have found, I figure it is old enough to be considered vintage by now. Bot amps I have are circa '84-'85.
First is the amp that I have been using for a while: TA-FA444 ESII
I have not really been able to find anything on this one, but it sounds awesome to be. It has more power than I would ever need plus it is nice and simple, the way I like my electronics. The only problem with this amp is that it is not truly mine. My father still wants it back once I find a suitable replacement for it, and after much searching I think I found one
TA-AX500
I always like the silver look better than the black look so it is already ahead. From what little info I have found these two amps are pretty simaliar, though the AX500 is a bit older. I just recently scored the AX500 off ebay for about $50, which I consider a steal considering how good it sound. Right now the AUX input does not work and the volume knob needs cleaning, but it sounds beautiful and it pretty simple so it is a winner in my book.
The only thing I have heard either of these amps drive is a pair of Sansui S-930's that I picked up a few years ago. They are not the greatest speakers in the world but, they work well considering how small my dorm room is at my school.
The stuff that I have is not as quite as old as some of the stuff that I have found, I figure it is old enough to be considered vintage by now. Bot amps I have are circa '84-'85.
First is the amp that I have been using for a while: TA-FA444 ESII
I have not really been able to find anything on this one, but it sounds awesome to be. It has more power than I would ever need plus it is nice and simple, the way I like my electronics. The only problem with this amp is that it is not truly mine. My father still wants it back once I find a suitable replacement for it, and after much searching I think I found one
TA-AX500
I always like the silver look better than the black look so it is already ahead. From what little info I have found these two amps are pretty simaliar, though the AX500 is a bit older. I just recently scored the AX500 off ebay for about $50, which I consider a steal considering how good it sound. Right now the AUX input does not work and the volume knob needs cleaning, but it sounds beautiful and it pretty simple so it is a winner in my book.
The only thing I have heard either of these amps drive is a pair of Sansui S-930's that I picked up a few years ago. They are not the greatest speakers in the world but, they work well considering how small my dorm room is at my school.
absolon
Super Member
YB2, did you get your SM for the 6200 from Manuals-in-PDF or find another source? I need to adjust the offset (30 and 75 mv) so I've ordered from them but have been told to expect to wait up to three weeks while they get the manual.
Sure like this little monster. I've set it up by my desk and have about a dozen hrs listening through headphones so far. Works without any issues and stereo reception is even pretty good with a folded dipole. Sound is lovely, that rich Sony resonance to it. Sorry, I'm afraid your nephew the architect won't be seeing this one.
Sure like this little monster. I've set it up by my desk and have about a dozen hrs listening through headphones so far. Works without any issues and stereo reception is even pretty good with a folded dipole. Sound is lovely, that rich Sony resonance to it. Sorry, I'm afraid your nephew the architect won't be seeing this one.
Yes, I believe it was from them. However, I ordered the hard-copy before I actually bought the receiver as I knew I would eventually end up with one. They sent a new, original Sony service manual in English. Was a while back, so I don't recall the time-frame for delivery. I've ordered other .pdf format manuals from them and the longest I've had to wait is ~2 weeks. Think they are just giving themselves some leeway. The STR-6200F manual is a very complete 68 pages.
Is there any info you need from it for the moment? BTW - I would appreciate a copy of the schematic in .pdf when you receive.
Is there any info you need from it for the moment? BTW - I would appreciate a copy of the schematic in .pdf when you receive.
No promises. I don't have a flat-bed scanner, so is difficult to do bound manuals, etc.