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Soundbars good or bad for audio world ?

Hey Ultumax,,”Stupid worthless chores” ??? C’mon dude, get motivated and get out there, find ANY job and more importantly, DO YOUR CHORES!!! Your mom probably flips the bills and mortgage correct? Chores are the LEAST you can do. Get motivated!!!!!
 
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Saw that kind of mentality my whole naval career and currently, we called them sick bay warriors.

Edit: We can’t even go with it being a generational thing there’s Lazy ass people in every generation
 
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hjames said:
Winner winner, TV Dinner!

Exactly so - Sound bars are for cheesey Home TV systems, certainly not Home "theatres,"
and definitely not in the realm of Audio as we AK folks think of it.
A quick and dirty device if you don't have time or space to go further into quality sound.
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Your point(s) seconded and then some, Heather. :thumbsup:
 
Gearjunky said:
”Stupid worthless chores” Starting to understand why you don’t have a job. C’mon dude, get motivated and get out there, find ANY job and most importantly, DO YOUR CHORES!!! Your mom probably flips the bills and mortgage correct? Chores are the LEAST you can do. Get motivated!!!!!
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Do enough (in your opinion?) lousy, undesirable "worthless" chores 'n' maybe gettin' out and doin' s.t. for pay will start to look pretty good, eh?

P.S. we're actually tryin' to help ya, to motivate ya.
 
dysmike said:
I'd kind of like one that can be powered, or passive. So you can use it as a soundbar, or a center channel.

That'd not be too difficult, actually.
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I think most of them rely too heavily on EQ/DSP for that to be practical. Full range on an amp with no signal processing, they probably would sound like a glorified midrange
 
maxhifi said:
I think most of them rely too heavily on EQ/DSP for that to be practical. Full range on an amp with no signal processing, they probably would sound like a glorified midrange
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Yes, you'd have to design one from scratch. You'd probably also have to control which speakers in the assembly are used in passive mode. My AVR does single processing nicely on it's own. There is a use-case for this. It appears to be pretty common. My wife wants to just hit a button and watch TV, and she'd like a bit better sound than the down-firing speakers provide. Actually, for TV watching I'm fine with this too. However, for movies I want some SOUND. Maybe I should patent the thing.
 
@ultumax We all wish the best for you. But, only you can make it happen. Wake up tomorrow with a "can-do" attitude and make a positive change in your life. Stop all the whining and negativity in your posts. Good luck!!
 
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Yes, you'd have to design one from scratch. You'd probably also have to control which speakers in the assembly are used in passive mode. My AVR does single processing nicely on it's own. There is a use-case for this. It appears to be pretty common. My wife wants to just hit a button and watch TV, and she'd like a bit better sound than the down-firing speakers provide. Actually, for TV watching I'm fine with this too. However, for movies I want some SOUND. Maybe I should patent the thing.
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I think they mostly work like the Bose 901, where the EQ boosts bass and treble to compensate for falling response of a speaker in a too small enclosure. The EQ curve has to be perfectly matched to the specific speakers to make it work properly - It actually works really well though, because power is now so cheap with digital amplifiers. I think they also use the old trick of boosting bass at 100Hz to give the impression that there's low bass, which of course they cannot actually produce.

All in all a really cool product, and it's interesting how they use DSP, digital amps, switch mode power suppliesbuilt in DAC, wireless subwoofers, and all manner of other modern tech you couldn't find in cheap sound equipment 10 years ago to achieve their results.
 
maxhifi said:
I think they mostly work like the Bose 901, where the EQ boosts bass and treble to compensate for falling response of a speaker in a too small enclosure. The EQ curve has to be perfectly matched to the specific speakers to make it work properly - It actually works really well though, because power is now so cheap with digital amplifiers. I think they also use the old trick of boosting bass at 100Hz to give the impression that there's low bass, which of course they cannot actually produce.

All in all a really cool product, and it's interesting how they use DSP, digital amps, switch mode power suppliesbuilt in DAC, wireless subwoofers, and all manner of other modern tech you couldn't find in cheap sound equipment 10 years ago to achieve their results.
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This would require a redesign. It's not all that complicated IMO either, at least not on the logic design aspect. The form factor would have to change, no doubt, but it'd still be a far sight better than having to hang a sound bar and a center channel.
 
dysmike said:
This would require a redesign. It's not all that complicated IMO either, at least not on the logic design aspect. The form factor would have to change, no doubt, but it'd still be a far sight better than having to hang a sound bar and a center channel.
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I agree! Actually, the simplest way to try it would be simply to connect your receiver's center channel output to the sound bar's auxiliary input, through an appropriate attenuator. Then just get the volume right, and it would probably work quite well. The sound bar's internal amplifier would be fine most likely for this task.

I watch all my movies either in mono or in 2 channel stereo, making it a bit of a moot point for me.

Another thing I've been impressed with is the clever use of passive radiators on sound bars and portable Bluetooth speakers. It's amazing how far computer modeling has taken design past where we were in the 80s.
 
my parents use 2
hers is under the tv like normal and she has her remote
dad is almost 80 and going deaf from 45 yrs of truck driving
his is on the lamp table beside his chair .. its bluetooth,,, he can have it beside him so he can hear, without the tv being blaring loud

but on a side note i happened to hear a yamaha sound bar demo
this thing was big, expensive, but sounded pretty good
of course if your gonna spend $700, there's a big pile of other options
 
jazzmans said:
Yep.

or should we just call you Ignatius J Reilly? @ultumax
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You would only be insulting yourself because I don’t know who that is. I googled it there is a character in the hobbit movies who looks much like him .
if you had nerve pain this bad :whip::jump:
Would not be funny !:thumbsdown:
Maybe when I feel better I’ll do some job applications im too tired .
Maybe find a better doctor too.
 
Tom Brennan said:
When I read about that book I thought I'd like it. I didn't.
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I’m clueless what it is , but repeating myself would sound like a damaged cd or record .
I’ve been to doctor , it’s a work in progress. Takes forever !!!

Back to soundbars ?
Im sure you could beat this one for half the price https://www.crutchfield.com/S-
lKougmL9mka/p_143AMBEOSB/Sennheiser-AMBEO-Soundbar.html?XVINQ=GLX&awkw=766414141417&awat=pla&awnw=g&awcr=355013186285&awdv=m&awug=9015549&gclid=Cj0KCQjws7TqBRDgARIsAAHLHP6Dcf4_vksrnq0xtGBS7bvLpkq1_04IfGWQNG-yvX7ltSbWlIs6ptcaAveZEALw_wcB
At this prices were is the active sub ?
Fancy thing like the rolls Royce of soundbars .
 
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