Stylus suggestion for my V15 Type IV
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Vintage Bert
Opinions my own, except those of the Mothership!
I went with the JICO SAS and haven't looked back. Takes a bit to ship but worth the wait imho. Seems to be lots of discussion on the quality of the "new" Ed Saunders styli. I use an old one on my Type III and like the way it sounds so yeah, that might be worth a shot if so inclined as well.
AlphaEcho35
Super Member
I agree with bobins08 on the PM3160DE being the budget option. It's decent stylus for the price. I managed to find a NOS Shure VN45HE to compare it to, and the EVG was worth it. if you want the best for your Type IV, go with the Jico SAS, or find a NOS VN45HE on eBay - they pop up occasionally.
Balifly
Listening
In the after market arena, there is also a HE-hyper elliptical stylus that is one step below the top of the line JICO SAS.
http://www.lpgear.com/product/SHSV15IV.html
bobins08
Celebrating Life
Good starting point. After you get used to hearing the budget stylus you may want to upgrade but before then you can tweak the gear you have, the room, etc.
Its all about the journey.
Here's the thing, though... the current stylus is the stock Shure model. It sounds great but is slightly bent from years of use ( and abuse, probably), which makes tracking hell. Even properly setup, the dang thing finds every opportunity to skip and "loop".
So, it sounds good but performs poorly. I'm worried that the anything below a Jico HE will be a significant downgrade. The room, rig and ears will certainly notice that. Cheapo= $46 Jico HE= $106 Jico SAS= $160, Proper Shure= Fuggedaboudit.
Stupid obsession!
So, it sounds good but performs poorly. I'm worried that the anything below a Jico HE will be a significant downgrade. The room, rig and ears will certainly notice that. Cheapo= $46 Jico HE= $106 Jico SAS= $160, Proper Shure= Fuggedaboudit.
Stupid obsession!
The Voice of Music sells the 4772-DE for $36, the cheapest that I've found. I picked one up a few months back and like it, although I still plan on getting the Jico HE at some point. But I guess you have to prioritize - is it better to just put the money towards one of the higher level aftermarkets? For me, the SAS is out of the question as I don't have that kind of cash and I've heard great things about the HE. I justified the purchase of the 4772-DE aka PM3160DE as something that I could use on less than perfect records. But as a good, relatively inexpensive stylus, I'll third the recommendation.
AlphaEcho35
Super Member
nope
Well, that's a pretty autocratic statement. For instance, there are a number of people (and this is not me, because I have never heard the SAS) that say it's a bit on the bright side, very finicky to set up, and really needs to be reserved for LPs that are in meticulous condition. I'm sure that following these conditions and mated to a proper arm, it's does indeed sound fantastic, but we don't know how the OP plans to use the cartridge, let alone what turntable it will be used on. He was looking at a BUDGET option, and we're only offering suggestions. To categorically state that there aren't any other options (particularly the LP Gear stylus mentioned in post 5) is disingenuous.
It is. And even that is not exact replacement. A lot of details can be found in that discussion: http://www.analogplanet.com/content...mr-stylus-replacement-turn-shure-m97xe-v15xmr
GerardG
KBO
I have a V15 type IV and use an elliptical stylus, an EVG, from Carol on it. I found it to be worthy and enjoyed sound it produces. VOM sells this same stylus for less and I can recommend it.
Some time after an online seller of styli went out of business. Many here who remember GAR may well remember that after announcing their leaving the business they held terrific deals on styli and I did buy quite a batch. One of these was I thought a backup elliptical for my IV. When I looked closely at the box it was labeled HE. Bonus! I immediately tried it and wow!! The depth and detail revealed was, to my ears, stunning. I didn't find it at all harsh or shrill but very much in the vein of Shure and with much more mid and high end clarity producing a very 3 dimensional sound.
Recently I tried the elliptical again wand still greatly enjoyed it. Indeed I'm thankful to have both. What you get will obviously depend on your budget but you will be pleased no matter the choice, I'm sure.
Gerard
Some time after an online seller of styli went out of business. Many here who remember GAR may well remember that after announcing their leaving the business they held terrific deals on styli and I did buy quite a batch. One of these was I thought a backup elliptical for my IV. When I looked closely at the box it was labeled HE. Bonus! I immediately tried it and wow!! The depth and detail revealed was, to my ears, stunning. I didn't find it at all harsh or shrill but very much in the vein of Shure and with much more mid and high end clarity producing a very 3 dimensional sound.
Recently I tried the elliptical again wand still greatly enjoyed it. Indeed I'm thankful to have both. What you get will obviously depend on your budget but you will be pleased no matter the choice, I'm sure.
Gerard
Cylontymany
Super Member
SAS and don't look back!!!
