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Toyota Thread

Start-Stop is a needless solution looking for a non existent problem.

You asked me to start my own start stop thread. So I stopped responding on that subject. Then you delete the post asking me to stop. Didn't ask any of the others to stop but they share your opinion. Then post a response to someone you agree with.

You didn't really want to end the stop start subject you just didn't want to hear from someone who doesn't share your view You don't want a discussion you want an echo chamber. You deleted that post in order to not have it come back on you. Underhand and dishonest comes to mind
 
You asked me to start my own start stop thread. So I stopped responding on that subject. Then you delete the post asking me to stop. Didn't ask any of the others to stop but they share your opinion. Then post a response to someone you agree with.

You didn't really want to end the stop start subject you just didn't want to hear from someone who doesn't share your view You don't want a discussion you want an echo chamber. You deleted that post in order to not have it come back on you. Underhand and dishonest comes to mind

Hello gents.

I gotta agree with Sanford here.

All threads end up with a side topic or two, and if that "thread drift" isn't nefarious there is no problem with it. Now, when a side topic comes up, as long as the responses don't break any rules, ALL opinions have to be accepted/allowed, and not just opinions favoring one side of the discussion.

Fair is as fair does....... ;)
 
Speaking of Tacomas, has anyone driven or ridden in the new one built on the same chassis as the Tundra? If so is it better riding than the previous generation?
 
This is my toyota.
In high school I had my eyes in a bronco that wasn't for sale. Dad had used grandpa's fj40 toyota while stationed at fort ord during the Vietnam War. He remembered it as fun and capable and we went looking for one.
We found this instead.
It holds more cargo, more friends, and still goes anywhere. Really anywhere you point it. At 53 years old its never had the head off, still running the original alternator, and the original starter just got replaced due to a noise (it has been making the noise for years and always still worked)
There's no ac, no power anything. Top speed of 55, slower on hills, doors leak air, can't talk over the noises and there's the dust....

The Landcruiser life isn't for everyone, certainly not the soft handed yuppies who always assume I'd sell it...
Every time I go anywhere someone has something to say about it.

You know what I say about it...

"Buy a Toyota, they last a long time"
 

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I got a chance to drive one of them FJ55 Landcruisers, it was slow and noisy on the highway but it had that feeling like I could of driven it all around the entire continent without using a single road. It was like one of them trusty old tractors that is always ready to work.
 
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Most truck owners in the states are to concerned about looks to buy a functional truck like that. The height of beds on popular trucks here are way to high, gone are the days of being able to reach over the side of the bed to grab an item. My grandpa kept an old 1982 ford pickup for 30 years, he used it into his 90s even though he could of afforded a new truck but he couldnt reach over and grab his tools or wire needed to repair his fences with new trucks. Heck even the Tacomas side walls are too high these days unless what you are grabbing is right against the sidewall.


Tried to find a pic to compare the height of the top of bed on older trucks to the height of the mens shoulders. Todays beds are as high as your average mans shoulder, but alas, we know trucks today are rarely purchased by those that are constantly working with things in the back of the truck. Even old truck ads liked to exaggerate.

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I’ve had a few Toyotas. 8 and counting. Put both of my boys in one. Great vehicles. 4 4Runners to date. Still have the silver one shown and will probably drive it until the end if there is such a thing.
 

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That's a nice looking 2nd gen! I sometimes fantasize about finding one like that from the southern states and bringing it back north...
That is probably my favorite vehicle of all time. Drove it for 10 years and then let my son take it over.
I hated to sell it.
 
Most truck owners in the states are to concerned about looks to buy a functional truck like that. The height of beds on popular trucks here are way to high, gone are the days of being able to reach over the side of the bed to grab an item. My grandpa kept an old 1982 ford pickup for 30 years, he used it into his 90s even though he could of afforded a new truck but he couldnt reach over and grab his tools or wire needed to repair his fences with new trucks. Heck even the Tacomas side walls are too high these days unless what you are grabbing is right against the sidewall.


Tried to find a pic to compare the height of the top of bed on older trucks to the height of the mens shoulders. Todays beds are as high as your average mans shoulder, but alas, we know trucks today are rarely purchased by those that are constantly working with things in the back of the truck. Even old truck ads liked to exaggerate.

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You're spot-on with the positives and definitely spot-on the negatives. I didn't realize how useless almost all truck beds were until I needed to use them. They were designed to crush knees and backs and look good doing it.
 
“I didn't realize how useless almost all truck beds were until I needed to use them. “

I’ve had a few trucks and drive one currently. Agree the bed sides are now overly high but I use the heck out of mine. I’m out in the woods a lot though. I can definitely tell you when a major storm comes through like Helene you will appreciate your truck. Throw your chain saw, gas, pry bars, generators etc in there and roll. I’ll never be without one again.
 
I’ve had a few trucks and drive one currently. Agree the bed sides are now overly high but I use the heck out of mine. I’m out in the woods a lot though. I can definitely tell you when a major storm comes through like Helene you will appreciate your truck. Throw your chain saw, gas, pry bars, generators etc in there and roll. I’ll never be without one again.
I'm not denying the common utility of what we're given, I'm encouraging thought on a potentially better design driven by experience.
 
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