Vertical Turntable?

[bobschneider]

I don't get the point of this, but then I don't think I'm the target market

http://www.chicagotribune.com/blues...avan-bapu-kickstarter-bsi-20150623-story.html

 

[jasonsong86]

I don't get the point of this, but then I don't think I'm the target market

http://www.chicagotribune.com/blues...avan-bapu-kickstarter-bsi-20150623-story.html

To save space.
They had before too. Sony and other companies made those too.
The only problem with the design in the link is that it will not work and will not sound right.
The arm is subjecting too much gravity work track correctly.
Having speaker on the plinth is a big no no.
It's clearly designed by a designer not an engineer.

 

[kaplang]

I don't get the point of this, but then I don't think I'm the target market

http://www.chicagotribune.com/blues...avan-bapu-kickstarter-bsi-20150623-story.html

I don't like tone arms they don't allow me to set the tracking force. It leaves to I have to chance.

 

[dcmfan]

Here also: http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=665707

 

[kermit z]

Interesting looking unit, and good for someone not wanting to get a full set up. Also cool to look at. I wish them well

 

[kermit z]

I don't like tone arms they don't allow me to set the tracking force. It leaves to I have to chance.

Actually in the video they set the tracking force.

 

[Tarl Of Gor]

That's so you can see the hologram on the new Rush 2112 release.

 

[ripblade]

Showing off the vinyl is what this is all about...the minimalist clamp proves it. The 'all-in-one' aspect with the built-in speakers proves it too....it's essentially plug 'n play except for the physical exertion needed to 'drop the needle'.

Good show!....another cheer for the endurance of vinyl replay.

My only question is, how did they manage to ensure a radial arm will follow the groove, given how difficult it is to manage that with a linear arm? :scratch2:

 

[petehall347]

how about this one http://www.mymodernmet.com/profiles/blogs/toc-vertical-record-player-roy-harpaz

a pic here if you don't want to click the link ....

 

[sregor]

Where's the upside down Dual TT on the springs from the 70's? Also the vertical Mitsubishi table?

 

[PoLoMoTo]

I don't think this concept is as unreasonable as everyone seems to be making it out to be, it'd be complicated don't get me wrong and probably not very good for the price they're asking, but I do think you could get the tracking for and what not pretty good, especially with the tonearm vertical. I would think you'd need an extremely light tonearm to make it track correct in this orientation though and I think you'd have much better luck putting the tonearm pivot on the top as it'd be more stable. In either case it'd probably be easiest to adjust the VTF by adjusting the VTA although I'm not sure what type of audible impact this would have. But like others have said the built in speakers are a big no no so this is really just a toy or proof of concept at best.

Also I'm pretty sure an upside down turntable would be significantly easier, in fact if you got some type of clamp for the record and platter I wouldn't be surprised if pretty much any TT would work upside down.

 

[trev57]

It looks the business, I bought a sharp upright deck when they first came out ,fine for a while then kept skipping off and on ,in today's money probably cost more than this version.

 

[petehall347]

old duke boxes were vertical ..

 

[jbrainey]

Reinventing the wheel? I'd much rather try the U-turn table with it's proven simple design.

 

[Daunia 70]

I have a Mitsubishi LT-5V lying around here. It sounds very good. But as previously mentioned,they're more of a fashion icon than a serious TT with heavy plinth. Also,they can be very finicky to set up,and if they develop a fault then it's worse still.

 

[restorer-john]

What weren't they thinking? It's been so done, done many times and by real manufacturers in the 1980s. The Sharp bilateral (both vertical and horizontal- portable and home) did it quite well, with special Audio Technica cartridges on each side, Infra Red track search capability and full programmability. I've got several in my storeroom I restored in the 90s. Sharp, Sony, Mitsubishi, JVC, even Technics, everyone did a few verticals. Difference was, they knew what they were doing.

The only way to do it properly is with a linear tracking arm.

The bearings in their motor are being used in the complete wrong orientation as will the platter shaft bearing.

They are using a stepper motor to drive it.

Still, get yourself a slick video production and a CNC router and a trusty 'no-compromise' AT95e cartridge. A sucker is born every minute.

 

[jasonsong86]

My only question is, how did they manage to ensure a radial arm will follow the groove, given how difficult it is to manage that with a linear arm? :scratch2:

They don't. I don't think tracking error is their highest priority.

 

[jasonsong86]

I think this thing will sell. To hipsters mostly. It's very attractive looking for sure. I don't think hipsters care about sound quality and tracking error. They ride single speed bikes because it's more pure so they definitely will come up with a reason why a belt drive table is better.
Very nicely done video for sure. Probably cost more to make that video than the table.
That woofer pumping when the grill is removed is just laughable.

 

[rnorton]

My Mitsubishi vertical turntable outperforms around 98% of all of the tables I've used. Wouldn't be worth crap if it had a radial arm, especially one with 15W of audio blowing out from one inch away.

 

[rnorton]

...
Still, get yourself a slick video production and a CNC router and a trusty 'no-compromise' AT95e cartridge. A sucker is born every minute.

The AT-95e is the best part of it.