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What are these monsters?

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These speakers are in a resale shop here in town.
There is no branding anywhere on them.
They are huge and heavy.

Can anyone provide some information about what they are?
 

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Take a screwdriver on your next trip there and open them up if the owner will let you.
I'm thinking the purchase price is fairly low? :dunno:
 
If you get a chance to open them up, write down the manufacturer and model number and button them back up.
Tell the guy you gotta run to an appointment so you can get out of there for a while and it will give you time to research the drivers.
You can go to Google and type it in to see what pops up, or you can be specific if nothing is found.

Try:
"manufacturer model site:audiokarma.org"
That search will list links to this site from other members postings/threads.

Hope that might help you a bit.
 
@doctorolds That my friend is some shiesty **** right there.....If seller lets you open them up be prepared to pay more!! Lots of people arent audiophiles, but arent idiots either! Some Pioneers are worth some good money!! If cheap enough just take the damn gamble...If I was seller and you opened them up and then didnt buy and I had them priced to move Id be pissed for wasting my time....
 
... appears to me that Pioneer is listed on the the 2 level controls.

Custom made cabinets likely housing vintage pioneers drivers as those green pots are pioneer brand. Possibly horns.

You guys are good so I'm gonna throw in my own guess

Fukuin/Pioneer variation of the PAT models, based on the dual controls

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pioneer pax 30e 1 (Custom).jpg

https://audio-heritage.jp/PIONEER-EXCLUSIVE/unit/index.html

https://mniec.wordpress.com/2015/07/03/pioneer-catalog-1955-very-rare/
 
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You guys are good so I'm gonna throw in my own guess

Fukuin/Pioneer variation of the PAT models, based on the dual controls

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https://audio-heritage.jp/PIONEER-EXCLUSIVE/unit/index.html

https://mniec.wordpress.com/2015/07/03/pioneer-catalog-1955-very-rare/

OK, now this is getting exciting.
These were represented to me as "Old, rare, and the top of the line in their day". The guy at the thrift store said he got them from the original owner who bragged on them.

I'm going back tomorrow.....details to follow.
 
@doctorolds That my friend is some shiesty **** right there.....If seller lets you open them up be prepared to pay more!! Lots of people arent audiophiles, but arent idiots either! Some Pioneers are worth some good money!! If cheap enough just take the damn gamble...If I was seller and you opened them up and then didnt buy and I had them priced to move Id be pissed for wasting my time....

Sorry I didn't get into the details, not trying to be shiesty, just smart. I don't even know what the seller would be asking, or if operational. To many factors to even consider arguing with you about them. I'd have to be there to determine any move I would possibly make, other than see or hear them, and take a chance based upon pricing.
Man, I'm just giving a suggestion, not the only solution, since many members are not familiar with every old driver produced. If the owner said no to inspection, and said $50 out the door I'd take a chance. Judging me based on a comment/idea to get a member to research a product before purchasing seems pretty harsh. To many variables in this scenario, but I didn't see any suggestions from you other than trying to criticize me. Hope you enjoyed it...

The only thing I apologize for is not having the time to discuss the possible scenarios...
 
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@doctorolds Sorry if I harmed you....Your words not mine! At a minimum its deceptive at best!

your quote:

If you get a chance to open them up, write down the manufacturer and model number and button them back up.
Tell the guy you gotta run to an appointment so you can get out of there for a while and it will give you time to research the drivers.
You can go to Google and type it in to see what pops up,
 
Its a moot point as OP states they are at a thrift store! Likely cheapish and will also most likely allow potential buyer to open up to see whats inside! Nothing to see hear...Carry on....
 
Are the Pioneer PAT speakers good?
I've never heard them, so curious.

As big as they are, they are going to have to be pretty special because there is no way that I can "sneak" these into the living room. If the sound is worth it then I'll fight the battle.

My setup is a Marantz 2245 with Sansui SP2500 and Bose 401.

I'm not a tech but my neighbor is. They are old so there.might be some work / parts required.

Interested in your thoughts
 
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