Yamaha integrated better than receiver?
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thedelihaus
Nocturnal transmissions
Can't help you with specifics, but here's a discussion I've had with a few folk regarding integrateds and receivers-
starting arguements are usually-
receiver, pro- shorter "built-in" signal paths to innards, no external cables
receiver, con- "noise" do to more elements (tuner) stuffed in case
integrated, pro- less innards to cause interference
integrated, con- external cables may add noise do to longer signal paths
Dunno if anyone has ever heard a difference between like-minded models of receivers and integrateds, though.
My personal thoughts are it's nominal, at best.
Does your receiver have class "A" performance? That might be the only "big" upgrade.
I've got a 610 and two 810s. Love 'em.
starting arguements are usually-
receiver, pro- shorter "built-in" signal paths to innards, no external cables
receiver, con- "noise" do to more elements (tuner) stuffed in case
integrated, pro- less innards to cause interference
integrated, con- external cables may add noise do to longer signal paths
Dunno if anyone has ever heard a difference between like-minded models of receivers and integrateds, though.
My personal thoughts are it's nominal, at best.
Does your receiver have class "A" performance? That might be the only "big" upgrade.
I've got a 610 and two 810s. Love 'em.
Brian
An Old Geezer
Must compare apples to apples and there are few receivers built directly from the separates. Usually when you find them there are compromises if no where else then with the power supply and also usually also compromised as to inputs, etc. A few receivers based on separates include:
Marantz 18 - 20/7t/15
Marantz 19 - 20b/33/16
Fisher 600T - TFM300/TX300
Sherwood 8000 - S5500/S3000 (suffix will depend on version)
McIntosh receivers are not based on separates but their tuner/preamps were combinations of their tuners and preamps.
The Marantz 2230 is off the 1060 and I think the 104 tuner but, not sure as to the tuner.
I am sure there are many more.
To answer your question you'd need to side by side them.
Marantz 18 - 20/7t/15
Marantz 19 - 20b/33/16
Fisher 600T - TFM300/TX300
Sherwood 8000 - S5500/S3000 (suffix will depend on version)
McIntosh receivers are not based on separates but their tuner/preamps were combinations of their tuners and preamps.
The Marantz 2230 is off the 1060 and I think the 104 tuner but, not sure as to the tuner.
I am sure there are many more.
To answer your question you'd need to side by side them.
JJJimmy
Silver is Sweet!
My CA-1000 definitely sounds brighter than my CR-1020. They are fairly close in specs, I believe, but handle sources and speakers much differently. I have found:
1) The CA-1000 Integrated works best with CD player and NS-1000M's. Incredible detail at ALL volumes, with enough adjustment to round the sound to suit you. Of course, the better the CDP, the better it sounds.
2) The CR-1020, along with my Dual TT, a CDP, or in FM mode and just about any speaker, comes across warmer and more forgiving. Just a fantastically clean, powerful, 70's sound.
Either way, you just can't go wrong!
1) The CA-1000 Integrated works best with CD player and NS-1000M's. Incredible detail at ALL volumes, with enough adjustment to round the sound to suit you. Of course, the better the CDP, the better it sounds.
2) The CR-1020, along with my Dual TT, a CDP, or in FM mode and just about any speaker, comes across warmer and more forgiving. Just a fantastically clean, powerful, 70's sound.
Either way, you just can't go wrong!
