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Zilch's AK Design Collaborative - Econowave Speaker

Ok, here goes....its time for me to re read this entire thread, its got to be done. So much info is starting to pile up on itself, I need a reread to clarify before doing the other e'wave projects I've collected parts for.

Russellc
 
And Russell scores post #2000! :D
The crossover I'm using is also the original basic low pass, with no tweeking done yet, and this is likely a ground furtile for tweeking. Not even a zobel yet, just bone stock.
For lowpass, look to 4430 as a starting point:

http://www.jblproservice.com/pdf/Studio Monitor Series/4430LR.pdf

I have a pair of just that section built on separate boards for prototyping.

This where having measurement capability is helpful, if not essential, to optimizing the system.... :yes:
 
Ok, here goes....its time for me to re read this entire thread, its got to be done. So much info is starting to pile up on itself, I need a reread to clarify before doing the other e'wave projects I've collected parts for.

Russellc

Russell, If I'm not mistaken by what Jack has said he did and suggested you do was.

I think he has said use the Berringer for the woofer section and the Econo High pass
on the tweeter not going through the Berringer at all for the high end.

Edit: Nevermind, looks like I'm wrong after looking at Jacks drawing. :no:
 
From the drawing, Jack used the complete E'Wave highpass intact, retaining its full HF compensation, but also, the attenuation:

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Russell, If I'm not mistaken by what Jack has said he did and suggested you do was.

I think he has said use the Berringer for the woofer section and the Econo High pass
on the tweeter not going through the Berringer at all for the high end.

Edit: Nevermind, looks like I'm wrong after looking at Jacks drawing. :no:

That's the problem I'm having. This thread is so info rich its piling up on itself,
promting me to re read. I think you are correct that the highs go through both. Seems odd, but what the hell do I know, and these guys info is gold to be sure. Jaymana found a cx 3400 on craigs list, I havent been so lucky. Its only 129 but I have learned long ago I can go broke with bargins if I find enough. I almost need the deq 2496 worse! And I've got cabs to build for (or find) 2213H, need to repair a MC 225 (HEP me Jay Hep me!) a Counterpoint SA 1000 and a little work on a pretty good working MR 67 tuner.
Krikey, I need a second job! Hopefully in a tube amp repair station and or cabinetry shop so I can work this stuff off! Actually, the Mc 225 is going to Terry D shortly.....I've been saying this for two years!:tears:

russellc
 
From the drawing, he used the complete E'Wave highpass intact, retaining the full HF compensation, but also, the attenuation::

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Outdone yourself again, dumbed it down where even I can get it.

Thanks Zilch, your the best:thmbsp:

Russellc
 
And Russell scores post #2000! :DFor lowpass, look to 4430 as a starting point:

http://www.jblproservice.com/pdf/Studio Monitor Series/4430LR.pdf

I have a pair of just that section built on separate boards for prototyping.

This where having measurement capability is helpful, if not essential, to optimizing the system.... :yes:

I have the parts for it thanks to your list in the Q & D thread over at LHF.
I'll try this with the 3K econowave x-overs. Tonight is a lost cause, I'll be drinking bourbon in a coffee cups and passing out candy to the neighborhood goblins.:D

Maybe afterwards:scratch2:

Russellc
 
Yeah, well, click the post count on the forum index page to see who the bigmouths are. :tongue:

80 members have contributed to the thread thus far.... :yes:

70,005/2009 = 34.8457​

wow, i didn't know AK threads had that feature.
nice.....now i have 26 posts in this thread...haha:D
 
Yeah, well, click the post count on the forum index page to see who the bigmouths are. :tongue:

80 members have contributed to the thread thus far.... :yes:

70,005/2009 = 34.8457​

At the risk of veering off topic a bit, I thought a graphical representation of posting data would be interesting. Note the "Frequency" axis is log. Linear was way too compressed.
 

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PC Board tutorial is posted.

I just finished posting the crossover printed circuit board tutorial that I promised some time back. It is in the speakers forum under "Etch Your Own Crossover Printed Circuit Boards."

Hope that it is helpful to someone.
 
At the risk of veering off topic a bit, I thought a graphical representation of posting data would be interesting. Note the "Frequency" axis is log. Linear was way too compressed.

Hey, I can see myself in the graph. Damn.
My lack of wisdom has been quantized.

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I find the 8x8 waveguide sounds better on the 8" woofer boxes than the regular Econoguide. I always had funny sound off axis. This is better. Think maybe woofer diameter is playing into this but don't know.
 
Hi Zilch and Rider

Look who's here? MrT! Man! I've been following this thread for a while and my registration just go thru. I just received D220ti from PE and waveguides are on the way. (Got it for $7.59 a piece). Let's see what happens.

Mr.T:music:
 
I just finished posting the crossover printed circuit board tutorial that I promised some time back. It is in the speakers forum under "Etch Your Own Crossover Printed Circuit Boards."

Hope that it is helpful to someone.

Thanks, this one is super appreciated! Good skill for the DIY'er to pick up, and thanks to Jackgiff for bringing it to us.:thmbsp::thmbsp::thmbsp:

russellc
 
Hi Zilch and Rider

Look who's here? MrT! Man! I've been following this thread for a while and my registration just go thru. I just received D220ti from PE and waveguides are on the way. (Got it for $7.59 a piece). Let's see what happens.

Mr.T:music:


Hi T!
How'd you get those so cheap?
Supposed to be $9.90!
 
Hi Zilch and Rider

Look who's here? MrT! Man! I've been following this thread for a while and my registration just go thru. I just received D220ti from PE and waveguides are on the way. (Got it for $7.59 a piece). Let's see what happens.

Mr.T:music:

I pity the fool who stole MrT with only a single T.

Yeah, do tell us about the source at 7.59 a piece.

Someone on DIYaudio is selling his PTs with D210Tis for 60.00 but that still not as good of a deal as yours.
 
Cheap econoWG source

After reading Jack's comparison review of JBL and Pyle WGs, I went with the Pyles. And I found them here http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-list...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1225632456&sr=8-1

Look out for the shipping cost. However, it is not any higher than mcm.

As an owner of 811bs I must admit that those WGs look really femine! :D Aesthetically speaking, my altec 414s have been looking for romantic match up. So they should make good pairs! :thmbsp: I just hope that she can sing.:sing:

MrT
 
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