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Audiolab 6000CDT CD Transport

Just a quick thread revival for anyone currently looking at this specific model or a excellent CD transport. The Audiolab 6000CDT is currently on sale on Amazon for $449. Picked one up several weeks ago and confirm all the hype surrounding this model is justified.
 
Just a quick thread revival for anyone currently looking at this specific model or a excellent CD transport. The Audiolab 6000CDT is currently on sale on Amazon for $449. Picked one up several weeks ago and confirm all the hype surrounding this model is justified.

Okay, earlier in this thread (6 years ago, lord time flies!) I spoke of the slot-loading Audiolab, and how I just don't care for those style loaders. There is an SMSL getting lots of traction with a top loader setup. I don't imagine it's anywhere near as good as that Audiolab, but let's discuss something here, as adults.

What is the difference you are hearing with a transport? I have several old cdp's from years past, some nicer offerings, and honestly, I just don't have those level ears, I guess. I CAN hear differences with cd players, but with just the transport part of it?? I hate to say I'm dubious, so please, enlighten me, someone.

I really REALLY like that 9000 from Audiolab. Has a tray, and neat little 4x3 screen. I THINK I can also hook my hard drive directly to it. Nice!
 
Okay, earlier in this thread (6 years ago, lord time flies!) I spoke of the slot-loading Audiolab, and how I just don't care for those style loaders. There is an SMSL getting lots of traction with a top loader setup. I don't imagine it's anywhere near as good as that Audiolab, but let's discuss something here, as adults.

What is the difference you are hearing with a transport? I have several old cdp's from years past, some nicer offerings, and honestly, I just don't have those level ears, I guess. I CAN hear differences with cd players, but with just the transport part of it?? I hate to say I'm dubious, so please, enlighten me, someone.

I really REALLY like that 9000 from Audiolab. Has a tray, and neat little 4x3 screen. I THINK I can also hook my hard drive directly to it. Nice!
I get the skepticism and was of the same mind as well until I gave it a try. The only analogy I can give would be separates versus an integrated. There really does need to be difference and yet there is one (though it is subtle).I also have 2 different DAC’s connected to my 6000CDT and again these DAC’s have slightly different sounds. I prefer one DAC over the other when listening to certain types of music which is a flexability that a transport gives over a CD player.
 
I get the skepticism and was of the same mind as well until I gave it a try. The only analogy I can give would be separates versus an integrated. There really does need to be difference and yet there is one (though it is subtle).I also have 2 different DAC’s connected to my 6000CDT and again these DAC’s have slightly different sounds. I prefer one DAC over the other when listening to certain types of music which is a flexability that a transport gives over a CD player.

Thank you for a kind, respectable answer, sir. I have 3 DAC's, Original Firefly, Meridian Director, and a Denafripps Ares II that I have to one day upgrade the firmware (which terrifies me).

They go in that order for sound quality, in my opinion. I was surprised how much better the Denafripps was over the Meridian. Greater leap than the Firefly to the Director.

Appreciate your reply.
 
Thank you for a kind, respectable answer, sir. I have 3 DAC's, Original Firefly, Meridian Director, and a Denafripps Ares II that I have to one day upgrade the firmware (which terrifies me).

They go in that order for sound quality, in my opinion. I was surprised how much better the Denafripps was over the Meridian. Greater leap than the Firefly to the Director.

Appreciate your reply.
Hope I could help. The way I look at using 2 different DACs with my 6000CDT is like switching cartridges on a turntable. Sometimes you just want a different sound but it is one that you still enjoy.
 
I get the skepticism and was of the same mind as well until I gave it a try. The only analogy I can give would be separates versus an integrated. There really does need to be difference and yet there is one (though it is subtle).I also have 2 different DAC’s connected to my 6000CDT and again these DAC’s have slightly different sounds. I prefer one DAC over the other when listening to certain types of music which is a flexability that a transport gives over a CD player.
Any CD player that has digital outputs has that same flexibility. Can be used as a player or a transport.
 
Any CD player that has digital outputs has that same flexibility. Can be used as a player or a transport.
Thus my analogy of an integrated versus separates. Yes a CD player can be used as a transport but that was not the intent of the designer.
 
Yes a CD player can be used as a transport but that was not the intent of the designer.
Of course it was the intent of the designers. Why else would they put digital outputs on the player? Transports are marketed as being better at extracting more detail from the CD. This has always been debated and is pretty much muted with higher end CD players that use higher rotational speeds and upgraded lasers to extract more detail. Pretty much the same things that a transport is supposed to do. I've owned a few transports and have not heard any difference between them and my current SACD/CD player used as a transport. Maybe it's because I don't dabble in lower end CD players.
 
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Of course it was the intent of the designers. Why else would they put digital outputs on the player? Transports are marketed as being better at extracting more detail from the CD. This has always been debated and is pretty much muted with higher end CD players that use higher rotational speeds and upgraded lasers to extract more detail. Pretty much the same things that a transport is supposed to do. I've owned a few transports and have not heard any difference between them and my current SACD/CD player used as a transport. Maybe it's because I don't dabble in lower end CD players.
At a higher price point you are probably right however that is not the price point we are talking about here and the nature of the question I was answering. As you say you don’t dabble in lower end CD players so to say that they work just fine as a transport as your more expensive CD player is a little bit of an apples and oranges position. I do think that at any price point the difference between a transport/DAC combo versus a CD player at comparable level is going yield subtle results and not be for everybody. Part of the reason I added one to my system was to take the load off my higher end SACD player which I now use only for SACD/Hi-res play.
 
At a higher price point you are probably right however that is not the price point we are talking about here and the nature of the question I was answering. As you say you don’t dabble in lower end CD players so to say that they work just fine as a transport as your more expensive CD player is a little bit of an apples and oranges position. I do think that at any price point the difference between a transport/DAC combo versus a CD player at comparable level is going yield subtle results and not be for everybody. Part of the reason I added one to my system was to take the load off my higher end SACD player which I now use only for SACD/Hi-res play.
There are plenty of lower end CD players that also have digital outputs. CD transports were/are a marketing experiment that has convinced some consumers that they can collect and transfer digital data better than a conventional CD player. Some manufacturers felt the need to somehow prop up the transport concept instead of just marketing them as what they are, a CD player without an internal DAC. They take out all of the DAC and filter circuitry, claim that the mechanical transport is somehow an upgrade, and sometimes charge as much or more for it than a full-fledged CD player. In my opinion, a decent CD player with digital outputs has the same system flexibility as a CD transport. The claims that you'll get better sound from a transport connected to a DAC than a similar CD player connected to the same DAC are just objective opinions that have yet to be proven to me. Audiolab's 6000CDT (CD Transport) uses the exact same mechanical transport system as their 8300CDQ (CD Player). So, at least they're consistent and don't make any questionable claims about the superiority of a transport over a player.
 
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