MarioGarnica
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Hello everyone, which of these 2 turntables do you think is better and why? Denon DP-47F vs. JVC QL-Y5F
Denon DP-47F vs. JVC QL-Y5F
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ETI_5000
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Hello – welcome to AK.
They’re quite similar in that they both use electronically servo-controlled tonearms, for the best damping (without friction) of the cartridge low frequency resonance, and improved tracking, combined with resistance to external vibration. The main difference is that the Denon DP-47F is a newer design, that was still being sold new up until the turn of this century, so you may be able to find ones almost 20 years younger, which may have reliability benefits.
Denon had also perfected the electronic damping by the time they introduced the DP-47F, so they were also able to suppress the arm/cartridge resonance to 1dB or less with many cartridges (versus 3dB for the JVC, with standard Z3E cartridge). For that reason, I’d probably give the edge to the Denon, despite owning a QL-Y3F, the horizontal-damping only ‘baby brother’ of the QL-Y5F.
See here https://worldradiohistory.com/Archive-All-Audio/Archive-High-Fidelity/80s/High-Fidelity-1984-05.pdf to download an old magazine with a review of the DP-45F, the predecessor of the DP-47F, which found the arm damping so effective they couldn’t find the low frequency resonance, it was so small, and concluded that the arm would work with any good cartridge because of its effectiveness at damping the resonance.
They’re quite similar in that they both use electronically servo-controlled tonearms, for the best damping (without friction) of the cartridge low frequency resonance, and improved tracking, combined with resistance to external vibration. The main difference is that the Denon DP-47F is a newer design, that was still being sold new up until the turn of this century, so you may be able to find ones almost 20 years younger, which may have reliability benefits.
Denon had also perfected the electronic damping by the time they introduced the DP-47F, so they were also able to suppress the arm/cartridge resonance to 1dB or less with many cartridges (versus 3dB for the JVC, with standard Z3E cartridge). For that reason, I’d probably give the edge to the Denon, despite owning a QL-Y3F, the horizontal-damping only ‘baby brother’ of the QL-Y5F.
See here https://worldradiohistory.com/Archive-All-Audio/Archive-High-Fidelity/80s/High-Fidelity-1984-05.pdf to download an old magazine with a review of the DP-45F, the predecessor of the DP-47F, which found the arm damping so effective they couldn’t find the low frequency resonance, it was so small, and concluded that the arm would work with any good cartridge because of its effectiveness at damping the resonance.
rabbitoioi
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I have actually owned both of these tables
The dp-47f was my intro to servo arms
And I’m still hooked. It’s a newer design, it’s the 1 table that denon kept in their catalog long after the death of vinyl like other brands, so you can find a much newer one. Also very compact
The jvc however is built like a tank, and I would take it over the denon for that reason alone. The physical build quality is much better and the arm has vta adjustment
My main deck is a jvc qly-77f. In theory the best servo table ever made. (I hear that Sony made great modes too but they are rare) Later design, every possible upgrade etc.
The jvc qly-5f has a better physical build than the later 77f flagship
They both handle vertical and horizontal movements via servo magnets
The dp-47f was my intro to servo arms
And I’m still hooked. It’s a newer design, it’s the 1 table that denon kept in their catalog long after the death of vinyl like other brands, so you can find a much newer one. Also very compact
The jvc however is built like a tank, and I would take it over the denon for that reason alone. The physical build quality is much better and the arm has vta adjustment
My main deck is a jvc qly-77f. In theory the best servo table ever made. (I hear that Sony made great modes too but they are rare) Later design, every possible upgrade etc.
The jvc qly-5f has a better physical build than the later 77f flagship
They both handle vertical and horizontal movements via servo magnets
ETI_5000
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Nice turntable, and they do look very nice. However, I'd give the prize of best-ever to the statement, cost-no-object Denon DP-100M http://www.thevintageknob.org/denon-DP-100M.html .
As long as you had a strong friend or two to move it around, a large room for it, and someone else (a very rich father?) paid for it, you were set!
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rabbitoioi
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I stand corrected didn’t know that one existed
But it’s not full auto and I don’t see interchangeable arm wands
But it’s not full auto and I don’t see interchangeable arm wands
ETI_5000
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Yes, it's not fully auto, unfortunately, probably because it was based on the professional DP-100, which was aimed at radio stations. It does have interchangeable arm wands, though - there's a screw at the top in front of the arm pivot for removing them to change. Either s-shaped or straight wands could be used, similar to many other Japanese turntables of the time, including the JVC QL-Y55F, QL-Y66F and QL-Y77F. You could buy 15 DP-47F's for the same money, but the performance of the DP-100M was leagues above that.
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