Yes, it would.
Fathom F112's in my system
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Yes, it would.
I think it will be fine. I doubt you will be crossing them over at anything over 30-35Hz anyway. Take a look at the manual, they can be setup in many different places around the room. The key will be to play around with the settings to get them to sound smooth together at your usual sitting position/sweet spot.
People at the back of the room will get a complimentary kidney stone pulverization, compliments of 360lb Gotham beasts.
:lmao: OK then, that's where I'll park them. :thmbsp:
I think it should work but I would be careful that either the C2200 or the MX is on at the time not both as the manual states you can use either but not both inputs. I would call JL Audio and ask just in case. :scratch2:
Speaking of sub set up, calibration and optimization, one of the best in-detail descriptions of how to do it right is in the Gotham review. The tools such as the Behringer mike and real time spectrum analyzing software from True Audio are described in the review as is the basic idea of how to do it right. All the necessary stuff should run about $200-$250 plus one needs to have a laptop or a pc with a sound card that has a mike input in the room. I will give this a shot to check my "less scientific" approach and setup but the problem may be with the fact that I don't have or use a preamp with analog inputs in my system. :scratch2: This is great reading! http://www.ultraaudio.com/twbas/twbas_20080401.htm
Bryston 10B Sub x-over is here.
Here is the last piece of the puzzle that just arrived. Stay tuned for the findings. It will be interesting to see how the 501s sound relieved of the very low bass and the Memento's as well but I am pretty sure the 275MKIV will sing like no one's business when the subs take over from 80-90Hz on down.
Here is the last piece of the puzzle that just arrived. Stay tuned for the findings. It will be interesting to see how the 501s sound relieved of the very low bass and the Memento's as well but I am pretty sure the 275MKIV will sing like no one's business when the subs take over from 80-90Hz on down.
For those curious how this is going to work, it is rather simple.
MDA1000 feeds the Bryston 10B SUB inputs. The Bryston splits up the signal into high and low, highs go on to the amps and the lows go to the subs. This way the amps and the speakers only see frequencies from predetermined point (probably 70-90Hz and up) and the subs will only see the frequencies below that they are responsible for. (70-90Hz on down). Amps have an easier time, speakers don't have to strain to reproduce the lows from the mid-bass driver. :thmbsp: This is also essentially bi-amping with speakers that are not bi-ampable.
The rest is fine tuning and tweaking and tuning some more....
MDA1000 feeds the Bryston 10B SUB inputs. The Bryston splits up the signal into high and low, highs go on to the amps and the lows go to the subs. This way the amps and the speakers only see frequencies from predetermined point (probably 70-90Hz and up) and the subs will only see the frequencies below that they are responsible for. (70-90Hz on down). Amps have an easier time, speakers don't have to strain to reproduce the lows from the mid-bass driver. :thmbsp: This is also essentially bi-amping with speakers that are not bi-ampable.
The rest is fine tuning and tweaking and tuning some more....
mac man
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I look forward to your review!! I just placed a f113 in my system I am quite happy with it now but I will be curious how the 10b inclusion will sound in the end:scratch2:
You bet. Congrats on the F113! :thmbsp:
Nice photos of the Bryston 10B, too. The whole time I was studing the first photo, I was wishing to see the back of the unit. Didn't see it until I scrolled down and there it was......cool. The last electronic crossover I used was a Tapco unit on a pair of Altec A7 VOT speakers. Fed the woofers direct from the low pass amplifier, and the horns directly from the high pass amp. Super clean, and dynamics galore. No doubt, the Bryston is in a different class than the old Tapco. Keep us posted.
Should be, the dual F112 in my 14x17 room are barely coasting along yawning all the time.
Keep in mind it can be built with balanced or RCA inputs/outputs as well. Here is an article describing it in detail. http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/bryston2/crossover.html
Why wouldn't you use the Bryston x-over only for the high pass (70Hz and up) and then send a full range signal to the Fathom 112 and let its filter, set at 70Hz, to handle the frequencies from 70Hz on down? If you send the low pass from the Bryston x-over to the Fathom, won't you have to turn off its filter completely? Why do that? Thanks---
There are a few different ways of doing this but there are things to consider such as phase shifts at x/o points depending on the slope of the filter (6/12/18dB). I will have to play around to see which method works best. I will share my findings. :yes:
Thanks! I believe both the Bryston and Fathom can be set to use 12db/octave, or other, identical slopes. It just seems to me that if you allow the Fathom's filter to operate on a full range signal, you get to use use all of its fancy optimization features; if you use the Bryston to only send it the low-pass signal, you'll have to turn off everything on the Fathom (I think that means turning the switch to "slave") and using it only as a "dumb" subwoofer. If there is a fear that the Fathom's filter is inferior to the Bryston sonically, to me I wonder how important that is for frequencies at 70Hz and below. Of course, you'll still get the sonic benefits of the Bryston on the high-pass side, using it only for that part of the signal. I look forward to hearing about your results! Thanks--
JFR0317
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Now you're talking!!
I know I really don't need it, but I can & want it. That's all that matters.
Do you think I should install seat belts John? :scratch2:
JFR0317
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Something more like competition three point harnesses might be needed!
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