You gotta get the tweeters. If you really really can't find them, PM me. Those are a pretty popular dome tweeter (can't seem to think of it right now) with the old tweeter grill glued to them. If you can get the grill off, I'm sure someone could use those for something else, but the Genesis tweeters are sweet as can be and belong in these.
Genesis 2 restoration
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sealy
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Interesting you would comment that the newer tweeters were "improved" over the old, Masonite-framed tweeters. Having owned several pairs of Genesis' over the years, I feel that the older tweeters are smoother, but at the same time every bit as detailed as the newer versions. Doped paper inverted domes in early versions, versus heavily-doped phenolic inverted domes in later versions. The paper dome is lighter and thus a bit quicker. I have 2 of those very tweeters in each of my EPI modules, and they are wonderful. Better I think, than the newer tweeters in my Genesis speakers.
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Some of your pictures don't show up. When I click on then, it asks me to log in, even though I'm already logged in...
Lee.
Finally got a chance to remove the woofers and passives and get rid of all that old foam (pictures below). I have some new surrounds that I got from Rick Cobb, and I have the capacitors and resistors on order from Erse Audio.
Now, I just need to decide whether to go with an original masonite tweeter, or go with the later ones mounted on the plastic plates.
Now, I just need to decide whether to go with an original masonite tweeter, or go with the later ones mounted on the plastic plates.
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Vintageman1
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On the model 2's, I replaced my masonite with the latter plastic bezel type. Sound was similar however the plastic one was slightly undersized whitch made it difficult to place into position and avoid an air gap. If you can, stick with the masonite.
+1 early tweeters are the best :thmbsp:
bob s
Active Member
Fabulous speakers.
I own a pair of Genesis ll's, had them re-foamed by "Human Speakers",they sound great, with clear treble from the inverted dome tweeter
and smooth bass extension from the active / passive woofer array. They go deeper than any other I ever heard similarly sized.:thmbsp:
Nice find, fix them right and you'll never part with them.
Bob S
I own a pair of Genesis ll's, had them re-foamed by "Human Speakers",they sound great, with clear treble from the inverted dome tweeter
and smooth bass extension from the active / passive woofer array. They go deeper than any other I ever heard similarly sized.:thmbsp:
Nice find, fix them right and you'll never part with them.
Bob S
Did some more work on the Genesis speakers today. Here is a picture of the old crossover, it looks like the resistor had been getting a little bit hot. The extra black capacitor in the top left of the picture had no markings on it, I'm not sure if this was there from the factory, or if it was added when the new tweeters were installed.
Here is my new crossover, the components came from Erse Audio. I made the crossover to match the schematic shown on the Human Speakers web site, that is with a capacitor and resistor in parallel with each other across the poles of the switch.
One of my speakers had a broken terminal. I wanted to change them, but also wanted to keep the original back plate. After removing the original terminal posts, I was left with four holes, not good. I cut of a tiny piece of masonite and glued it in place, and mounted my gold plated terminals. There wasn't much room to work with, since I wanted to keep the address showing on the back plate as it's part of these speakers heritage.
Now I just need to wait for my set of Genesis tweeters to arrive...
Lee.
Here is my new crossover, the components came from Erse Audio. I made the crossover to match the schematic shown on the Human Speakers web site, that is with a capacitor and resistor in parallel with each other across the poles of the switch.
One of my speakers had a broken terminal. I wanted to change them, but also wanted to keep the original back plate. After removing the original terminal posts, I was left with four holes, not good. I cut of a tiny piece of masonite and glued it in place, and mounted my gold plated terminals. There wasn't much room to work with, since I wanted to keep the address showing on the back plate as it's part of these speakers heritage.
Now I just need to wait for my set of Genesis tweeters to arrive...
Lee.
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Here they are all back together. I made some gaskets because I can't stand the look of bare steel frames, I used some bright green foam in honor of the green surrounds they used to have. I made two per driver, thinking I might cover up the screws. You know what, I'm going to do my first poll...
Screws on show.
Hidden screws.
Lee.
Screws on show.
Hidden screws.
Lee.
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Amcrebelfan
Super Member
I like the screws hidden. Looks great, very nice job.
39cross
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Very nice! I have a pair of the second version of the II's, with the vinyl cabs. As you probably know, the arrangement is slightly different, the tweeter is at the top, woofer in the middle and the passive at the bottom.
I took the easy way out and bought new crossovers from Human Speakers. The previous owner had replaced one of the woofers when the foam rotted, but the other must have been OK at the time because it was still in the speaker. I decided to replace them both with new woofers from Human Speakers as well. Refoaming the passives was easy.
I kept the old crossovers for sentimental reasons. They are good sounding speakers, you are sure to enjoy yours. Thanks for the pictures.
I took the easy way out and bought new crossovers from Human Speakers. The previous owner had replaced one of the woofers when the foam rotted, but the other must have been OK at the time because it was still in the speaker. I decided to replace them both with new woofers from Human Speakers as well. Refoaming the passives was easy.
I kept the old crossovers for sentimental reasons. They are good sounding speakers, you are sure to enjoy yours. Thanks for the pictures.
Initial listening shows these speakers to have a very nice sound. Certainly, they are not lacking in bass extension, though that 8" woofer is doing all the hard work. I didn't even try them with the unknown tweeters that they had, I wanted to hear just the Genesis sound (should have played some Genesis tracks through them).
What I did notice that the switch on the back doesn't really make that much of a difference. From the Human speakers web site, it looks like the 10uF capacitor across the switch was optional. I might remove it, and see what difference that makes. Certainly, they don't need more treble, so if removing the cap makes the switch drop the treble down a little, that would be more useful.
I would really like to A-B them with my KEF104aB's, as both speakers have a similar design : 8" woofer with a passive radiator. Such comparisons aren't that great in my small listening room, since one speaker ends up sitting on top of the other. I have the caps to do the KEF crossovers, maybe once this is done I can compare the two.
Lee.
What I did notice that the switch on the back doesn't really make that much of a difference. From the Human speakers web site, it looks like the 10uF capacitor across the switch was optional. I might remove it, and see what difference that makes. Certainly, they don't need more treble, so if removing the cap makes the switch drop the treble down a little, that would be more useful.
I would really like to A-B them with my KEF104aB's, as both speakers have a similar design : 8" woofer with a passive radiator. Such comparisons aren't that great in my small listening room, since one speaker ends up sitting on top of the other. I have the caps to do the KEF crossovers, maybe once this is done I can compare the two.
Lee.
I took the cap off that went across the switch, it works much better now giving a slight reduction in high frequency output.
The cap is now in service in my Advent Ones.
Lee.
The cap is now in service in my Advent Ones.
Lee.
