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How about getting out there and trying some different cables instead of constantly reiterating from a physics book?
I can tell you those values do affect sound. Try some Cat 5 or foil type cables, you will hear a difference.
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whoaru99
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How about not assuming that I haven't already done that sort of thing.
Have I listened to dozens of different brands cables? No, I have not. But, I can assure you that it's been more than just the one supplied with my VCR.
Regardless of whether or not I would listen to more cables, it doesn't change the properties that affect electrical signals.
I do not believe in magic and that somehow the electrical signal that is audio in a wire mysteriously operates on a different set of rules. Except, perhaps, for the message it conveys. A raw FM carrier doesn't do much for me.
Because I hold these beliefs do not assume that my enjoyment of music, and reproduction thereof, is any less than the next guy.
ClassikAudio
Active Member
what do you all think of this? Tubes and cables, never thought of this one.
http://www.synergisticresearch.com/page/active_shielding/enigma
http://www.synergisticresearch.com/page/active_shielding/enigma
Ain't gonna be on my shopping list anytime soon either.
beans
Got arth-a-ritis
$5800 for 8'...OF WHAT? I don't understand.
stuartk
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matel
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Anyone here heard the Audience 24 speaker wire in action?
Was considering Zebra cables but as fun as the the ics are to listen to, they have an almost tubey distortion, my speaks would like a more straitforward wire. One review where they said they make a cello smile got to me (the Zebra ics do this but too much)
Was considering Zebra cables but as fun as the the ics are to listen to, they have an almost tubey distortion, my speaks would like a more straitforward wire. One review where they said they make a cello smile got to me (the Zebra ics do this but too much)
matel
Super Member
The review by Bob Niell for Positive Feedback on the Audience au24 speaker wire is half of a two part review on Opacity vs. Transparency in wire.
Very interesting insight into listening to music via different wire.
Valhalas were his reference and after 2 weeks of listening to the 24's the tables were turned.
The Nordosts now sounded businesslike
the Monuments 111 sounded romantic and the Audiences revealed a cellist furiously coming to terms with a composer.
Very interesting insight into listening to music via different wire.
Valhalas were his reference and after 2 weeks of listening to the 24's the tables were turned.
The Nordosts now sounded businesslike
the Monuments 111 sounded romantic and the Audiences revealed a cellist furiously coming to terms with a composer.
They're very dynamic, but overall I didn't care for their sound. They do very well in the midrange, and sound quite forward to me.
The other problem I had was that they don't seem to deliver believable bass. Keep in mind that they look a lot like the towers of my Pipedreams, but where the Pipedreams also have four 18" subs, these have nothing.
Ironically, they measure ok objectively, but subjectively just don't seem to produce the real thing to me. All of that said, they're a worthy effort, and might do very well in just the right room.
I've heard the SR cables with their active shielding, and been impressed. Since I don't quite understand how active shielding works, I have even less idea of why tube-powered active shielding would be better.
It seems to me this is a good first post for a different thread.
Wow hard to believe I actually read all 10+ pages of this discussion but it was interesting enough that I couldndt stop.
Lots of good points of view here. Do I think different sizes materials shielding connectors etc on speaker cables make an audible difference? yes no doubt in my mind. Is it enough to justify spending large sums of money? it would depend on whether what I heard was a big enough difference.
Do I really care whether anyone else can hear the difference that I can? not really it would be nice if they could so I could share the experince but not neccesary.
Actually the biggest difference I have ever noticed was with interconnects some were very slight others were like like night and day big enough that even a deaf man could tell a difference I think.
I know some would say that tube amps cant possibly sound good due to the much higher levels of distortion but why is it that so many people prefer the sound of tubes? I think that yes its distortion but of a type that is pleasing to our senses.
I have listened to IC's that sounded dark to the point of not letting all the sound through it seemed to me. Others warm, others overly bright and not natural. In the end its up to you to let your ears decide whether they make a difference and if so whether its enough to justify the added cost.
Nor do I need super high dollar or fancy sounding cables to be impressed, They dont have to be frozen for long periods at near absolute zero tempatures and marainated in rare siberian albino bat blood and coated with martian space dust and blessed by a 150 year old voodoo priest to be acceptable, They just need to sound good to my ears.
Not every person is going to like the same thing some people are attracted to blondes others brunettes or redheads. Some prefer small others tall. There is no right way or wrong way only what what is right for you.
Try different cables out if they make a difference to you fine if not thats fine also :yes:
REGARDS JIM
Lots of good points of view here. Do I think different sizes materials shielding connectors etc on speaker cables make an audible difference? yes no doubt in my mind. Is it enough to justify spending large sums of money? it would depend on whether what I heard was a big enough difference.
Do I really care whether anyone else can hear the difference that I can? not really it would be nice if they could so I could share the experince but not neccesary.
Actually the biggest difference I have ever noticed was with interconnects some were very slight others were like like night and day big enough that even a deaf man could tell a difference I think.
I know some would say that tube amps cant possibly sound good due to the much higher levels of distortion but why is it that so many people prefer the sound of tubes? I think that yes its distortion but of a type that is pleasing to our senses.
I have listened to IC's that sounded dark to the point of not letting all the sound through it seemed to me. Others warm, others overly bright and not natural. In the end its up to you to let your ears decide whether they make a difference and if so whether its enough to justify the added cost.
Nor do I need super high dollar or fancy sounding cables to be impressed, They dont have to be frozen for long periods at near absolute zero tempatures and marainated in rare siberian albino bat blood and coated with martian space dust and blessed by a 150 year old voodoo priest to be acceptable, They just need to sound good to my ears.
Not every person is going to like the same thing some people are attracted to blondes others brunettes or redheads. Some prefer small others tall. There is no right way or wrong way only what what is right for you.
Try different cables out if they make a difference to you fine if not thats fine also :yes:
REGARDS JIM
stuartk
Super Member
It's more expensive, so it must sound better. If it didn't sound better, they wouldn't charge so much for it.
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