dmagalhaes
Active Member
A recent acquisition to refurbish, I added the RB250. I might keep it!
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pmsummer
simul justus et peccator
Well, it's a German idler wheel changer from the late 60s that's built like a tank. I really like the way it sounds, but then, I'm a mid-hi-fi-guy.
dnewma04
The Healer
I'm talking about the rectangular mounting. Mt stock TP16 arm mount into the arm board directly as does the que. You can see in the pics of mine.
Jim
pmsummer
simul justus et peccator
Boy there are some beautiful tables on AK! Vinyl lives
Here is my TD125 MKII
Jim
Muy bonita!
Mr. Lin
Lunatic Member
Ah, I see. Is yours a TP16 or a TP16 MKII?
TP16 MkI
Mine is the stock TP16 MK I which was shared by the TD-145, TD-160MkI, TD125 MKII, and the TD 126 MK I. The difference was the rectangular mount of the 145, and 160, as those tables do not use a separate armboard as do the 125 and 126 series to the best of my knowledge. Yours looks to have a 145/160 version TP16 Mk1 installed on the 125 arm board. Does the cue work or is it a totally manual cue? The knock on this arm at the time was that it was too heavy for the high compliance cartridges in vouge at the time, although it was one of the only available straight arms at the time. The TP16 MK I arm had an effective mass of 16.5 grams, while the Mk II and Mk III were only 7.5 Grams.
Regards,
Jim
Mine is the stock TP16 MK I which was shared by the TD-145, TD-160MkI, TD125 MKII, and the TD 126 MK I. The difference was the rectangular mount of the 145, and 160, as those tables do not use a separate armboard as do the 125 and 126 series to the best of my knowledge. Yours looks to have a 145/160 version TP16 Mk1 installed on the 125 arm board. Does the cue work or is it a totally manual cue? The knock on this arm at the time was that it was too heavy for the high compliance cartridges in vouge at the time, although it was one of the only available straight arms at the time. The TP16 MK I arm had an effective mass of 16.5 grams, while the Mk II and Mk III were only 7.5 Grams.
Regards,
Jim
Mr. Lin's TD125
Your table was setup to have a tone arm added, thats why there is no cue contol on yours (the third slider control) which to me is desirable. This gives you the option of adding an upgraded tonearm of your choice. If I decide to go that route, I will try and find another 125 with the blank armboard or with a SME 3009 (not improved) arm installed.
Jim
Your table was setup to have a tone arm added, thats why there is no cue contol on yours (the third slider control) which to me is desirable. This gives you the option of adding an upgraded tonearm of your choice. If I decide to go that route, I will try and find another 125 with the blank armboard or with a SME 3009 (not improved) arm installed.
Jim
dmagalhaes
Active Member
The Sonographe is made by Sota for Conrad-Johnson. A fine turntable that I am strongly leaning towards keeping.
Here's my main table:
dmagalhaes
Active Member
This table is as nice sounding or better than any of the AR's, Thorens and Ariston's I have. A big plus is that foot faults are not a concern with this table. Although the suspension principles are the same as the others, wall mounting is not necessary as with the others mentioned. This table has not skipped at all.
Mr. Lin
Lunatic Member
It's the TP16 MKI, at 16.5g. Completely manual, the way I like it. I do intend to upgrade the tonearm one day, since obviously that's supposed to really bring out this tables true colors. I'd like to stick to a medium to high mass tonearm though, since most of the cartridges I'll use or buy in the future are low compliance. That said, I agree with those who say the TP16 is an underrated tonearm. It sounds great, particularly right now with the Benz MC20E2, which is a pretty basic but surprisingly good cartridge. My only quip with it (the tonearm) is the design of the headshell, which limits the type of cartridges I can use with this turntable because they have to be threaded up from the bottom. No other headshell will work with this tonearm as far as I know.
The trick with the TP60 headshell is that it originally came with a variety of shims to adjust the cartridge height. It also came with a screw set of different heights to accomodate different cart. I agree it is a good arm when matched with the right compliance cartridge. I sold it to my friend because the the current top of the line Shure V15 II sounded mediocre paired with it. Shows how little I really knew about turntable/tonearm/cartridge synergy in 1977. I thought that my new H/K Rabco ST8 with a Sonus Blue gold Cartridge was the cats a** and it was because the ultra high compliance Sonus matched the Rabco's 5 gram effective mass arm so well. After proper review the TD125MkII ia a vastly superior table regardless of arm and cartridge, and is a great foundation to build a vinyl playback system on. What about the tube damper on your arm Mr Lin?
Regards,
Jim
Regards,
Jim
caddisgeek
sorry.......what?
Technics SL-1200MK5G GOLD Limited Edition.
That looks like Fiddy Cents deck, talk about bling!
Mr. Lin
Lunatic Member
Well, like I said, I can't be sure what, if any, improvements the damper is responsible for. I started using it with the Herbie's tube dampers and a couple sets of interconnect dampers, all at the same time. Talk about impatient.
When I first put the damper on the tonearm I was using my Grado Silver (not a great match for that arm, but still sounded good). Shortly thereafter I swapped it out for my Benz MC20E2, which likes a heavier arm, and it sounded significantly better than it had earlier. But, like I said, it's a really new cartridge, so I'm not sure how much of this has to do simply with the Benz breaking in. Otherwise the added weight and/or damping could have made it an even better match. I really mean to toy around with different positions on the tonearm, but I just bought a Grado Platinum and I'm stuck on that.
Another experiment for a rainy day is to put the Dynavector 10X5 on the Thorens, which I've never done. In theory they should work really well together.
