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I woke up to 6" of snow this morning, and the storm has pretty much shut down travel on I-25 between Colorado and ABQ. I was expecting my new Freya+ today, but FedEx just sent an update that it is stuck in Henderson CO (Denver area) and won't get here until next week due to the weather.
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krautmaster said:
I woke up to 6" of snow this morning, and the storm has pretty much shut down travel on I-25 between Colorado and ABQ. I was expecting my new Freya+ today, but FedEx just sent an update that it is stuck in Henderson CO (Denver area) and won't get here until next week due to the weather.
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Six inches of snow slows down deliveries in Colorado? Here, things just continue like nothing happened. I wouldn't have thought that would happen there. Hopefully you get your delivery on Monday! Thankfully, no snow here in my part of The Great White North yet, though! I don't want to see 6 inches of snow for at least another month, but November can be a fickle month sometimes. lol
 
Eywadude said:
Six inches of snow slows down deliveries in Colorado? Here, things just continue like nothing happened. I wouldn't have thought that would happen there. Hopefully you get your delivery on Monday! Thankfully, no snow here in my part of The Great White North yet, though! I don't want to see 6 inches of snow for at least another month, but November can be a fickle month sometimes. lol
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It is the highway through Raton Pass then down toward Santa Fe that gets choked up every time it snows, causes one or two day delays all the time.

Sometimes they shut down eastbound I-40 on the eastern side of ABQ (they have big gates that go across the road) before entering Tijeras Canyon because there can be a foot of snow from there all the way to Amarillo Tx.

Update: Currently both I-25 and I-40 are closed:
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I-40 and I-25 closed due to severe winter weather

The two major interstates in New Mexico – Interstate 25 and Interstate 40 – are closed Thursday due to a winter storm.
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The new Freya+ and Psvane Horizon tubes arrived late yesterday afternoon... inital impression is very good: lots of power, strong bass, sweet clear mids, and highs that cut a bit of the bright top end down. I have it playing the classical FM station right now and will let it play all day (Psvane says the tubes need about 6 hours to break in). I will give it a good listen this evening with David Gilmour's Luck and Strange and Brothers in Arms.

I had to do a little file work on the pins on one tube to get it to fit in the socket saver- a bit too much solder on some of the pins, making them too fat to fit, but this set of socket savers is very tight on any tube- it probably would have fit in the Freya socket without a problem... at least they arrived undamaged. They cost about the same as a 1950's-60's 6SN7GTB which can be a crap shoot- at least these are returnable if they turn out to suck !

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I had a Magni 3+ and regret selling it. It Audio-Technica MSR7's sounded clean, detailed, and warm with it.

I tried a Mani 2 but returned it because I thought it was too hard-driving. Later I realized that I didn't check the dip switches and should have asked Schiit about it before returning it. I'll probably try another one.
 
The Psvane Horizon CV181-AT tubes have turned out to be very very good with just 5-6 hours on them... I set the tone controls on my Lokius to flat and let them play all day: lots of power and deep strong bass, mids are crisp- I'm hearing some new things in old records I've heard a hundred times. Highs are pretty good without the super brightness that some piano and keyboard notes have, and no sibilance at all. Sound stage is wide, deep and holographic. Now to see how they do over the long term...
 
I moved the Psvane CV181-AT tubes from the office Freya+ out to the main systems Freya+ and let them play the classical FM station all day while we did yard work (yuck). Late in the afternoon I settled into my easy chair and played various tunes off Tidal for two hours. These tubes are holographic as hell with strong bass and sweet highs. The mids are a bit forward (I'll have to play around with the Loki Max tone controls some more) but not intrusive, they make very easy to understand what Eddie Vetter is mumbling on about. Tomorrow after the gym workout I'm going to play a lot of vinyl (Steely Dan, ZZ Top, Floyd, etc.)
I like these tubes.
 
krautmaster said:
I moved the Psvane CV181-AT tubes from the office Freya+ out to the main systems Freya+ and let them play the classical FM station all day while we did yard work (yuck). Late in the afternoon I settled into my easy chair and played various tunes off Tidal for two hours. These tubes are holographic as hell with strong bass and sweet highs. The mids are a bit forward (I'll have to play around with the Loki Max tone controls some more) but not intrusive, they make very easy to understand what Eddie Vetter is mumbling on about. Tomorrow after the gym workout I'm going to play a lot of vinyl (Steely Dan, ZZ Top, Floyd, etc.)
I like these tubes.
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The way you describe those tubes, those are some of the attributes I look for in gear, including a slight forwardness in the midrange. :thumbsup: Sounds interesting.
 
I just went and moved my Teac V900X over to the system that is driven by the Saga + and after plugging it into the second set of pre outputs, set the record levels and was going about stuff. I changed the volume and the record levels went with it.
No good. Ok the pre out is not line level. Should have known that as I was hooking it up. However that means there’s no way to add a tape loop.
I looked at the Freya and it seems the same. That got me wondering how the EQ’s are added. Are they inserted between the preamp and the amp?
Am I missing something obvious here?
 
To hook up a Schiit EQ the manuals for the Lokius EQ and Loki Max EQ say:

1. Balanced Input: Connect your balanced preamp output or other balanced source output here, using high-quality XLR cables. You can use Lokius/Loki Max either before or after your preamplifier. If using a single source, connecting Lokius/Loki Max before the preamp can give you a lower noise floor.

2. Single-Ended Input: Connect your preamp out or single-ended source here, using high-quality RCA cables. As above, you can connect either before or after your
preamp. We provide shorting plugs for the single-ended input; remove them if you are using this input.

3. Single-Ended Output: Connect to external power amplifiers or powered speakers that accept RCA connections, using high-quality RCA cables,
especially for longer runs.

4. Balanced Output: Connect to external power amplifiers or powered speakers that accept XLR connections, using good XLR cables.

Old School EQs that use Tape loops... I don't know

I have my Freya+ balanced output connected to the Loki Max balanced input, then the Loki Max balanced output to my Tyr amps. The single ended outputs on the Loki Max go to my subwoofer.
 
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The new Horizon tubes have about 30-35 hours on them now- sounding excellent... Dark Side Of The Moon in 3D is incredible as is Brothers In Arms
 
So if you want the EQ to affect all your sources you need to put it in between the pre and the amp.
If you only have one source to use eq put it between them.
Seems like Schiit has decided that we don’t need any line level loops. Although they acknowledge that it is a location that provides a better noise floor.
No soup (tape loop) for you!
 
Bradbrews said:
So if you want the EQ to affect all your sources you need to put it in between the pre and the amp.
If you only have one source to use eq put it between them.
Seems like Schiit has decided that we don’t need any line level loops. Although they acknowledge that it is a location that provides a better noise floor.
No soup (tape loop) for you!
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I haven't seen tape loops on new equipment since the mid 1990's- I think most manufactures dropped them back then. There may be a few who still make them, but I don't know who...
 
Got a Gjallarhorn on the way - early Xmas present. Will pair with the Saga 2 preamp I got last month. I'm interested to see if any noticeable differences between the Schiit and my other Class D smaller amps when paired with the Saga.
 
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Got a Gjallarhorn on the way - early Xmas present. Will pair with the Saga 2 preamp I got last month. I'm interested to see if any noticeable differences between the Schiit and my other Class D smaller amps when paired with the Saga.
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You know the Gjallarhorn is class AB don't you? I doubt you'll ever see a Schiit class D amp.
 
Sorry but there is minimal value proposition to the Schiit Class AB amps, especially the small-wattage ones, IMO. I've owned gear from Schiit, including the original Vidar (which hummed from the transformer) and Saga+ and two different Modi models. I've also owned Class D amps from Fosi, Aiyima and SMSL. The Chinese Class D amps perform very well and cost peanuts. In a world of $250 Fosi V3 monos amps from companies like Schiit cannot compete going into the future.

I appreciate that Schiit experiments with their product line, but plenty of their products seem odd to me and often disappear after relatively short runs. They're just all over the place. I don't see them as a trustworthy company in that regard and if they announced tomorrow that they're shutting down I wouldn't be the least bit surprised.
 
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Sorry but there is minimal value proposition to the Schiit Class AB amps, especially the small-wattage ones, IMO. I've owned gear from Schiit, including the original Vidar (which hummed from the transformer) and Saga+ and two different Modi models. I've also owned Class D amps from Fosi, Aiyima and SMSL. The Chinese Class D amps perform very well and cost peanuts. In a world of $250 Fosi V3 monos amps from companies like Schiit cannot compete going into the future.

I appreciate that Schiit experiments with their product line, but plenty of their products seem odd to me and often disappear after relatively short runs. They're just all over the place. I don't see them as a trustworthy company in that regard and if they announced tomorrow that they're shutting down I wouldn't be the least bit surprised.
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I disagree with this - while a few things have gone quickly, like the weird turntable, overall their product development seems pretty regular and they continue to offer a nice range of products for both the value-oriented customer as well as the upper regions. As much as I like Fosi and Aiyima and SMSL, they seem to be fess focused in their product development. Just to look at Fosi, for instance, they keep focusing on amps with switching power supplies while not delivering a tube-less preamp or other V3 series items to offer an integrated component system, and now they even have an upper-end division making fairly pointless things like a chrome-plated $1400 headphone amp ($100 more than an RME device, ha).

I think for pure value, the Fosi V3 and Aiyima 07 MAX are very tough to beat. Who knows, I may return the Gjallarhorn, but I want to give it a try with the Saga. A fleawatt AB amp is kind of a new idea, I spent a while warming up to it, but I have a setup/use case for which it may be perfect.
 
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