Is Daniel Craig in that one too?
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Dated, yes, but not so contrived. I'd have to give that award to the Roger Moore years, but they still were fun movies. Unbelievable, but fun. FWIW, Craig's movies are scaled down a bit, and a bit more real world...
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Dated, yes, but not so contrived. I'd have to give that award to the Roger Moore years, but they still were fun movies. Unbelievable, but fun. FWIW, Craig's movies are scaled down a bit, and a bit more real world...
"Q: What did you expect, an exploding pen?"
All Bond movies are contrived. Always have been. But now the fun has gone missing.
What made Connery great, at least in the early movies, was that he actually had a sense of style. He was NOT dressed by his girlfriend. Or worse yet, those ill fitting TOm Ford suits that make Skyfall the "Miami Vice" of the the series.
Bond is supposed to be about style, not fashion. In Skyfall he has no sense of style. He looks more like a bodyguard for a criminal.
For you, not me. I think the new movies are a lot more fun than the old ones. Fun in a different sense, as I find them more exciting and interesting to watch. The Connery movies bore me these days (liked them as a kid) and the Moore movies are too campy, and I find the Brosnan movies are just dumb, except for maybe Goldeneye. But that could be because I played that Nintendo game until it stopped working.
Well, to each his own, but when I get ready to go see a Bond flick, his attire is WAAAAAY down the list of reasons why. Despite all the protestations and hysterics here, when I watched it a second time the other day I barely noticed the clothes...
The direction of the latest movies is not that Bond is some super suave guy that tailors his suits. He'll rent an Escort when the company Aston is totaled. He's not loaded. If there is really bad tailoring its a decision. If you think otherwise you have never been in a five hour meeting regarding talent wardrobe and what every little detail signifies. Things on film are over-thought to th nth degree. Especially if Sam Mendes is your director.
Which is fine. Except that is NOT James Bond.
Well, lots of discussion on this elsewhere too...
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One of the interesting changes over the more recent Bond movies is a move away from Saville Row tailoring, to more trendy costuming. This has followed from women, not men, picking the suits for the Bond movies. The move to Brioni was also about a label. Being fashionable, not stylish.
One of the things she gets so wrong is her understanding of movement in a suit. A tight suit does not allow you to move freely. Saville Row suits, like the ones worn by Connery, are very military in cut. They allow free movement, while not bunching around the arms or shoulders.
The other design plus of the Saville Row cut is that you can tailor it to hide his underarm holster. The new cuts certainly don't do that.
You are really watching these movies for different reasons than I am. I'm not arguing your discontent with them, as nobody is going to change anybody's opinion on whether they liked the film or not, but his suit is really so far down the list of things I care about in these films. I really couldn't care less about what type of suit he's wearing, though the one in the new film is closer to the cut of the Merc suits that I wear, at least after I take them to my tailor to be made tighter. But really, I don't care one bit.
The clothes, like the the cars and the women, have always been a major aspect of the Bond movies and the Bond appeal. One of the first things director Terrence Young did when Sean Connery was hired for the role of Bond was take him to his (Terrance's) own tailor Anthony Sinclair, to get Bonds suits made. While it may not be an issue for you, Bonds attire is likely the most famous and most studied in the history of film.
Again, you want this to be a Connery movie. Its not. People care about different things now. But you can't tell me that Connery's attire wasn't trendy when he put it on. It's only "classic" now because it's four decades later and that look lasted (at least in some sense. I find it stodgy, business-like, and too loose myself). I'm sure Craig's tight-look will be passed on eventually for something else, but really, I and many many other people do not care. It's not a Connery film. And I, for one (and it looks like I'm not alone) am VERY happy that it is not. I don't want to see the same character over and over and over again.
My intial thought about his suit was...well I really didn't have a thought about it...but you are correct, it's an integral part of the Bond image and is an important aspect. I agree that they do seem a bit off, but regardless I prefer Craig over anyone else. Connery was certainly the more refined, suave type...but Craig seems to me a more capable, athletic, and physically imposing agent. Almost a hybrid between a spy and a special forces operator, which probably isn't far what Fleming had in mind given his appreciation of the SAS.
Actually, it wasn't trendy. Trendy at the time was the overly skinny suits as seen in Mad Men, etc. Bonds tailoring was much more conservative, and very military in its cut.
And no, it's not about being a Connery film. I want it to be a Bond film. His attire was MUCH better in Casino Royale.
That's what I like about him as well. I believe he can do what he's doing. I never believed any of the other Bonds were capable of being cold blooded killers, much less capable of some of the athletic feats that the stories put them in. I believe Connery can drink the hell out of a martini. But I feel he'd have his horse trainer chase after a bad guy rather than do it himself.
Exactly. They are turning the most popular character in movie history into something different. I really enjoyed the Bourne movies. I enjoyed Smiley and Flint and Matt Helm. But I don't want Bond to become any one of them.
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I HATED what they did to his DB5 in Skyfall. For no apparent purpose.