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So you want to understand Stylus Shapes? Try this!

Grado makes sense. What do you mean, "beware of the change out procedure"
The stylus cantilever sticks straight out of it's baseplate, and handling the assembly to unmount and mount into the cart can cause the assembly to flip, bending/ breaking the exposed cantilever on the baseplate.
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Question....why is the .5 mil conical so rare? I had my AT95EX retipped with a nude .5 and been listening to it for about a year now. To me it sounds better than every elliptical I've had. Also, shouldn't this shape last longer than a .3 or .2 elliptical? It seems like a good choice for an "all purpose" stylus
 
Question....why is the .5 mil conical so rare? I had my AT95EX retipped with a nude .5 and been listening to it for about a year now. To me it sounds better than every elliptical I've had. Also, shouldn't this shape last longer than a .3 or .2 elliptical? It seems like a good choice for an "all purpose" stylus
Works well on Denon DL-103 LOMC.
 
Pio: Doesn't the DL-103 have a 0.65 mil tip? Or did you refer to a retip?

Greetings from Munich!

Manfred / lini
 
Pio: Then you're mistaken. Spec for the DL-103 always used to be 16.5 µm/0.65 mil - and shank size should be 0.2 x 0.2 mm.

Greetings from Munich!

Manfred / lini

edit: Oops, sorry - mm -> µm!
 
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Pio: Then you're mistaken. Spec for the DL-103 always used to be 16.5 mm/0.65 mil - and shank size should be 0.2 x 0.2 mm.

Greetings from Munich!

Manfred / lini
I've seen the 0.5 mil in print, I assume then your information to be accurate and the other figure incorrect. 0.65 mil is closer to the industry standard 0.7 mil and seems right.
 
Pio: Well, the specs from the Denon museum say so and the specs from Denon's DL-103 and DL-103S brochure over on VE also say so. And I've just looked: The specs from that Japanese database (20cheaddatabase...) say so, too. Hence I'd indeed deem those 0.65 mil accurate.

Back in the day there used to be quite few Japanese cart models with 0.5 mil conical tip, though. But it seems like pretty much the only one, that has survived, would be the Sumiko Black Pearl as successor of the old Coral 555-SX.

Greetings from Munich!

Manfred / lini
 
Can some explain how a shaved conical (common elliptical) is an improvement over a regular conical if the contact patch is the same?
 
Yes, but other than the same tracing resolution as it's spherical twin, does it address "pinch effect" as well as a true biradial elliptical tip?
Well, I believe it might help at the extreme ends of tip excursion, and possibly limit the spread of the wear patch. Mostly, I think the bevels are the first step to shaping a biradial out of a conical, the rest being the degree of polishing. Don't know about pinch effect... doubtful at the most inner grooves.
 
So most " ellipticals" dont give anymore high frequencies than a conical? Are they just .7 mil conicals with less distortion?
 
What's wrong with that?

A .7 mil conical can't read as much high frequency detail as a line contact or microline. But I'm assuming that a .2 .x .7 "elliptical" will still have less THD than a .7 mil within it's frequency range due to its lower tip mass
 
(...) a shaved conical (common elliptical) (...)

I don't think, that one can correctly regard common ellipticals merely as "shaved conicals" with an otherwise completely identical contact patch. Maybe that applied to some some very cheap elliptical replacement needles, but otherweise I don't think the smaller minor radii were just fake.

Greetings from Munich!

Manfred / lini
 
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