The LP is back (officially)

[mhardy6647]

I guess today's cassette day "in the US and EU":
http://www.audioasylum.com/audio/general/messages/68/683124.html

just a little too late for the 50th anniversary, though...

casettebirthday_v2-lrg by mhardy6647, on Flickr

 

[rnorton]

So far, every new LP I've bought in the last 5 years has been a disastrously bad pressing. I've stopped buying new vinyl. LP pressing seems to be a completely lost art. I have plenty of good old vinyl left.

 

[markshan]

I've only had one bad pressing (Sgt Pepper, which EMI sent a replacement). Most have been very good to amazing.

 

[Sam Cogley]

So far, every new LP I've bought in the last 5 years has been a disastrously bad pressing. I've stopped buying new vinyl. LP pressing seems to be a completely lost art. I have plenty of good old vinyl left.

Oh jeez, not this again.

Mods, can we PLEASE add this to the list of dead topics?

 

[JoeESP9]

So far, every new LP I've bought in the last 5 years has been a disastrously bad pressing. I've stopped buying new vinyl. LP pressing seems to be a completely lost art. I have plenty of good old vinyl left.

The last couple of LP's I've purchased (including a 180Gm copy of Kind Of Blue) have all sounded very good to excellent with minimal record noise.

 

[mhardy6647]

There does seem to have been an era of poor QC for record pressing in (relatively) recent years; the current crop of plants seem to be doing a better job on average in that regard. The past few LPs I have bought have been quite nicely made (certainly better, anecdotally, than the run of the mill pop LPs of the mid/late 1980s).

 

[sqlsavior]

So far, every new LP I've bought in the last 5 years has been a disastrously bad pressing. I've stopped buying new vinyl. LP pressing seems to be a completely lost art. I have plenty of good old vinyl left.

That is not my experience at all. Disappointments here and there pressing-wise in a very few of maybe 200 new purchases in last 5 years. Astonishing number of perfect, not-a-single-flaw pressings recently, in fact, for me.

 

[4-2-7]

I've only had one bad pressing (Sgt Pepper, which EMI sent a replacement). Most have been very good to amazing.

Oh jeez, not this again.

Mods, can we PLEASE add this to the list of dead topics?

The last couple of LP's I've purchased (including a 180Gm copy of Kind Of Blue) have all sounded very good to excellent with minimal record noise.

That is not my experience at all. Disappointments here and there pressing-wise in a very few of maybe 200 new purchases in last 5 years. Astonishing number of perfect, not-a-single-flaw pressings recently, in fact, for me.

Me to +11111

Most of the time when I see someone complaining a look at there gear tells the story.

 

[rnorton]

Me to +11111

Most of the time when I see someone complaining a look at there gear tells the story.

Mitsu L-22
Mitsu L-20
Mitsu L-640
H/K T25 (modded)
H/K ST-7
Sanyo Q40+ (Micro Seiki made)
Technics SL-6

Ortofon OM-40 VdH
AT-122LP Shibata
AT-95vl
AT-95e
AT-92e
Ortofon OMP-30
Signet TK-3ea with an ATN-140LC

Nothing wrong with my gear and many of my old LP's are flawless and spectacular. My last purchase, a double LP 180g pressing of a live Mary Gauthier set could serve as an encyclopedia of vinyl defects as it has every known one plus one I've never seen or heard before. My guess is that it was pressed at least 20 degrees too cold and had no release compound.

Glad the rest of you are having better luck.

 

[Sam Cogley]

My last purchase, a double LP 180g pressing of a live Mary Gauthier set could serve as an encyclopedia of vinyl defects as it has every known one plus one I've never seen or heard before. My guess is that it was pressed at least 20 degrees too cold and had no release compound.

I used to have an original copy of "Arc of a Diver" that looked that way. I thought I kept it as an example of how a terrible junker could sometimes escape QC, but I haven't found it yet.

This is the sort of thing that I don't have any issue with - it's specific information about a certain release. Just general complaints about "new vinyl" doesn't really convey any useful information, and it's been done over and over again.

 

[4-2-7]

I used to have an original copy of "Arc of a Diver" that looked that way. I thought I kept it as an example of how a terrible junker could sometimes escape QC, but I haven't found it yet.

This is the sort of thing that I don't have any issue with - it's specific information about a certain release. Just general complaints about "new vinyl" doesn't really convey any useful information, and it's been done over and over again.

Ok Sam you like me on that one, if someone wants to complain get specific. We are one the worldwide web, not all records are like there's alone. They need to state lable, title, country of origin, catalog number, matrix number, master, pressing plant.
If this is above one's knowledge then their review is bunk.

 

[4-2-7]

Mitsu L-22
Mitsu L-20
Mitsu L-640
H/K T25 (modded)
H/K ST-7
Sanyo Q40+ (Micro Seiki made)
Technics SL-6

Ortofon OM-40 VdH
AT-122LP Shibata
AT-95vl
AT-95e
AT-92e
Ortofon OMP-30
Signet TK-3ea with an ATN-140LC

Nothing wrong with my gear and many of my old LP's are flawless and spectacular. My last purchase, a double LP 180g pressing of a live Mary Gauthier set could serve as an encyclopedia of vinyl defects as it has every known one plus one I've never seen or heard before. My guess is that it was pressed at least 20 degrees too cold and had no release compound.

Glad the rest of you are having better luck.

Just asking, Is that list suposed to be impressive?:scratch2:

 

[Ken Boyd]

Yes buddy because the LPs quality will be compromised!!!! (It wont sound as good if digital technology is used for the same reason DIGITAL doesnt sound as good)

Why would someone who LOVES ANALOG,be willing to accept a record which was digitally sourced?? (A TRUE ANALOG LOVER WOULD NOT)

Im not trying to make ya mad buddy,im trying to help ya realise WHAT A RECORD STARTED OUT AS: Analog .. And thats the best it ever was and its sad it started to be destroyed in the late 70s......

Why do I have so many LP's that say digitally mastered that sound so good? Perhaps I have a digital ready system?:thmbsp:

 

[markshan]

Just asking, Is that list suposed to be impressive?:scratch2:

No need to be hostile.

 

[4-2-7]

No need to be hostile.

Not hostile just wondering where their mind is at because that's how we precive sound. If they think that produces SQ then I can judge their judgement on "New Records"

 

[Beatnik]

 

[4-2-7]

Why do I have so many LP's that say digitally mastered that sound so good? Perhaps I have a digital ready system?:thmbsp:

Ken wasn't this the start of digital?

And then it multiplied..

 

[restorer-john]

Seriously, let's all admit that records are fun to play with and sometimes quite amazing for what they are.
I just taught my partner's son last night how to clean, cue up, hold a tonearm and use a vintage TT. He is amazed and sat there watching the tiny diamond following that groove in the plastic. Now he wants records, and a turntable. He wants to go hunting for records. I won't be surprised if he comes home with some today.

CDs may be flawless, but they disappear on a tray into a mostly black box and just play perfectly- where's the fun in that? Its those big old bits of vinyl that still capture my boys' fascinations, just like my Dad's turntables got me into hifi gear.

I've told him it's the hipsters and retro junkies that are driving this temporary uptick in sales, but there's no harm in it as long as he doesn't pay $50 a record. Just pay 50cents or a dollar or two and have some harmless fun.

I'll stick to my CDs- they'll be the next retro craze in another 20 years.

 

[kirk57]

My last purchase, a double LP 180g pressing of a live Mary Gauthier set could serve as an encyclopedia of vinyl defects as it has every known one plus one I've never seen or heard before. My guess is that it was pressed at least 20 degrees too cold and had no release compound.

Last I'd heard there was no such thing as as release compound. Do you know differently?

 

[markshan]

Not hostile just wondering where their mind is at because that's how we precive sound. If they think that produces SQ then I can judge their judgement on "New Records"

Are you suggesting that an OM40 or an AT Shibata aren't up to the task of telling a good record from a bad one?