mhardy6647
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I'm right on up I-91 a-ways...
Yamaha is back in the meter business
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Waterford area? I am in Coventry off 384
trhee
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So I guess you wouldn't be interested in the $80,000 Audio Note Ongaku with it's measly specs of 27WPC @1kHz, 5% THD. Only 10X more expensive than the Yamaha, with 20% of the power and more THD.
At the end of the day, it's about how a component sounds, not it's specs.
At the end of the day, it's about how a component sounds, not it's specs.
I have yet to hear AN gear of any price that sound half decent. Everywhere I head it, it was universally poor.
trhee
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Specs should be important Brother, otherwise we would all be bragging about our latest GPX or Soundesign score. My point in my original post is that you don't have to spend $8k to get good specs and performance. I have seen used systems that Brothers have less then $500 into that blew me away with how nice they sounded. If you have the money, by all means spend it on what you want
Would I spend $80k on a tiny amp? No, I would spend a grand+ on another WOPL that crushes the $80k amp into a wad and save the rest
trhee
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Specs are only important in the sense that it gives you an overall idea of whether it will fit into your system.
For example:
If I have a very large, hard to drive pair of speakers that are rated at 83db @ 1W/1M with a nominal impedance of 4ohms and my preferred listening levels are at 90+ dbs average in a 600 cu/ft room, sure absolutely I won't be shopping for an amp that produces 20wpc @ 8ohms.
If my intentions are to listen to hi-res audio at 24/192 as well as DSD files, I won't be shopping for a 24/96 DAC.
Beyond a general overview, you can't decipher how a component will sound just by looking at a spec sheet nor can you get an idea of how a speaker will sound by just looking at an anechoic frequency response chart.
Nobody mentioned that you need to spend tens of thousands of dollars to get satisfying sound. I too, have heard amazing budget systems that were well put together that have sounded better than poorly matched systems that cost 10 to 20 times more at various dealers as well as audio shows. At the same time, it doesn't necessarily mean that the individual components in the budget system are better than their more expensive counterparts though.
Personally, if I had $80,000 to spend on an amp, it wouldn't be the Ongaku either but I would spend far more than a $1,000.
For example:
If I have a very large, hard to drive pair of speakers that are rated at 83db @ 1W/1M with a nominal impedance of 4ohms and my preferred listening levels are at 90+ dbs average in a 600 cu/ft room, sure absolutely I won't be shopping for an amp that produces 20wpc @ 8ohms.
If my intentions are to listen to hi-res audio at 24/192 as well as DSD files, I won't be shopping for a 24/96 DAC.
Beyond a general overview, you can't decipher how a component will sound just by looking at a spec sheet nor can you get an idea of how a speaker will sound by just looking at an anechoic frequency response chart.
Nobody mentioned that you need to spend tens of thousands of dollars to get satisfying sound. I too, have heard amazing budget systems that were well put together that have sounded better than poorly matched systems that cost 10 to 20 times more at various dealers as well as audio shows. At the same time, it doesn't necessarily mean that the individual components in the budget system are better than their more expensive counterparts though.
Personally, if I had $80,000 to spend on an amp, it wouldn't be the Ongaku either but I would spend far more than a $1,000.
^^^^^^
See that's the beauty of a WOPL, it uses an existing Phase Linear chassis so your only paying for the upgrades and labor installing them. The PL's are completely gutted, there is nothing Bob Carver about them anymore except cosmetics. The internals are all TOTL, they use the finest components, 4 layer audiophile grade boards, Don's DC protection board and take advantage of much higher quality components that Carver did not have back in the early 70s. Your not paying the extra added on costs for all the R&D designing a layout and chassis for a completely brand new amp. This is why you can get away with spending a grand or so and getting big buck performance and reliability for your hard earned dollars
ANYWAY, I like the looks of the Yammie, just the price is tough to swallow
See that's the beauty of a WOPL, it uses an existing Phase Linear chassis so your only paying for the upgrades and labor installing them. The PL's are completely gutted, there is nothing Bob Carver about them anymore except cosmetics. The internals are all TOTL, they use the finest components, 4 layer audiophile grade boards, Don's DC protection board and take advantage of much higher quality components that Carver did not have back in the early 70s. Your not paying the extra added on costs for all the R&D designing a layout and chassis for a completely brand new amp. This is why you can get away with spending a grand or so and getting big buck performance and reliability for your hard earned dollars
ANYWAY, I like the looks of the Yammie, just the price is tough to swallow
lol.
I take a lot of notice of specs; I couldn't see much without them. 
I was PM'd by an Aussie who bought the A-3000. He raves about the sound quality. I'd give it an audition. That's the only way to tell. Others' opinions don't tell me much.
I was PM'd by an Aussie who bought the A-3000. He raves about the sound quality. I'd give it an audition. That's the only way to tell. Others' opinions don't tell me much.
I take a lot of notice of specs; I couldn't see much without them.
I was PM'd by an Aussie who bought the A-3000. He raves about the sound quality. I'd give it an audition. That's the only way to tell. Others' opinions don't tell me much.
Your post's carry a lot of weight, at least with me. Please ask that person to post a review here, or share it if it's posted else where. If I had the money, I'd be selling an updated CA-1000/1010 clone, damn the cost. If that's what Yamaha has done, I want one.
