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Yamaha NS-1000 what solid state would suite

SoCal Sam said:
Above a certain dollar firgure, the law of dimishing returns is definitely in play. For example, spending thousands on cables and interconnects to get the last nth degree of SQ falls into that category. However, why settle for the cheap stuff and staying very low on the S-curve when spending a few more bucks will get you fairly close to audiophile?
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I agree. Firmly.

My issues stem from all the way back in the mid-1970's when I sold the stuff. If someome had $1,000 to spend on a stereo, and was interested in that money buying the "final" system (not piecemeal), it was smart to get some good speakers, good belt drive (or DD) turntable, Good cartridge and a good receiver. But some guys would devote half (or more) of the money to a tube amp.

That's fine if the idea is to upgrade other components later. But if not, it's not gonna get you the best sound for the money from the whole system.

I was really big on "matching" the quality of a system and was big on gaining the customers trust to get them into what would give them the most "bang" for their buck, based on their specific needs.

The only people that walked out with lopsided systems were those that either "had" to have a certain type of component or planned on upgrading later. Sometimes this meant a really nice amp and really cheap speakers. Seldom the other way 'round though.

Heck, when I finished my Dynaco 400 in the early 70's I had to take it back to the store to see what it sounded like. :D
 
RobRoy said:
I agree. Firmly.

My issues stem from all the way back in the mid-1970's when I sold the stuff. If someome had $1,000 to spend on a stereo, and was interested in that money buying the "final" system (not piecemeal), it was smart to get some good speakers, good belt drive (or DD) turntable, Good cartridge and a good receiver. But some guys would devote half (or more) of the money to a tube amp.

That's fine if the idea is to upgrade other components later. But if not, it's not gonna get you the best sound for the money from the whole system.

I was really big on "matching" the quality of a system and was big on gaining the customers trust to get them into what would give them the most "bang" for their buck, based on their specific needs.

The only people that walked out with lopsided systems were those that either "had" to have a certain type of component or planned on upgrading later. Sometimes this meant a really nice amp and really cheap speakers. Seldom the other way 'round though.

Heck, when I finished my Dynaco 400 in the early 70's I had to take it back to the store to see what it sounded like. :D
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I do agree:
I started my audio life with a
Sanyo belt drive TT and a Silver receiver which was so light to lift, Speakers were from an old panasonic cd player. All very cheap

Later i went from the Sanyo to -> Pioneer Pl-117 -> Pioneer Pl-530 -> Pioneer Pl-630 where i have stopped.

Receivers were the Silver thing -> Pioneer sx-950 -> Pioneer ->sx-980 -> Pioneer sx-1050

Speakers were mostly cheap pioneer units now i have Yamaha Ns-1000.

So where to from here??

Yamaha M-2 power amp is where i want to go next and similar preamp - Any sugestions for a Yamaha preamp?:scratch2::scratch2:

The only issue is that im in Australia and we have very little good quality equipment here so there is slim picking. I would love to find a Yamaha contact in Australia or someone to send these items over. Freights high around US$500 for a 40 kg item. Luxman also looks good with the M-05.

I was considering a Yamaha B-2 but i think this is not a good option as if one of the Vfets died i could never get it fixed due to the lack of supplies in Australia.

So thats where i am. I wish i lived in the states as i would have a field day with all you guys can buy

ebay is good but there is not much to show down under
 
avionic said:
They sound excellent with large SS amps...For quite a few years I ran my NS-1000's with a Yamaha M-4(120wpc) ..Then a M-45(125wpc)... Obtained a nother set of NS-1000M's.Ran them with a second M-45 and a Yamaha C-4 pre. Then I built a couple (190wpc) DIY MOSFET amps.The sound difference was like night and day..For the better!.:yes:

ESP P101

800VA toroidal transformers with over 50,000uf of filter capacitance per +/- 70vdc rail.
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So you used the Yamaha C-4, how was it? Is this a good preamp or is the C-2a a much better option?
 
You might want to shoot AK member and fellow Aussie Theophile a personal message. He can give you some advice...
 
Ns-1000 now with pioneer Sx-1250

I have come across a TOTL Pioneer sx-1250 receiver and connected it up 2 the Ns-1000. There is a significant difference now that i have 160wpc. The old Sx-950 was good but only at 85wpc. When i connect the Ns-1000 and a pair of pioneer c-60 speakers they sound louder then the Yams. I think the Yams need more power 2 drive them. Thats why the sound is softer. The Yams do sound great, but we all know that
 
SX-950SX-980 said:
So you used the Yamaha C-4, how was it? Is this a good preamp or is the C-2a a much better option?
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C-4 sounds better --to me anyway-- than my C-2..I don't have a C-2a or x.
I have used a vaiety of other pre-amps though Yamaha C-85,SPEC1,PSaudio 5.0 ,Adcom,Crown,soundcraftsmen to name a few..C-85 and SPEC 1 are excellent.PS audio 5.0 sounds pretty good as well.
 
avionic said:
Yep..Sounds just like ...:scratch2: YAMAHA's
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I'm not sure I understand your cryptic reply.

Are you saying the CA amps sound good, bad or average?

Try to reply in terms most human beings can understand so I don't have to use my universal galactic translator. Thank you.
 
avionic said:
C-4 sounds better --to me anyway-- than my C-2..I don't have a C-2a or x.
I have used a vaiety of other pre-amps though Yamaha C-85,SPEC1,PSaudio 5.0 ,Adcom,Crown,soundcraftsmen to name a few..C-85 and SPEC 1 are excellent.PS audio 5.0 sounds pretty good as well.
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I use a C-2 with my B-2 and they sound good together- is their a better combo I do not know about? I also have the T-1 tuner and really like that one a lot= incredible bass!
DC
 
This has been a most informative thread, unfortunately NS 1000(XX) are very elusive up here.
The closest thing I have found are a pair of NS 690 III and last week a pair of NS 70T.
The NS 690 are driven by Luxman L-430 (100wpc) intergrated amplifier, the NS 70T are driven by Luxman L410 (75wpc) intergrated amplifier.
My wife likes those speakers a lot, she was the one who found the NS 690 III for me.
I told her to keep looking for the NS 1000(XX).:music:
 
ns-1000 with Luxman m-05c-c-05 combo

I paired up the NS-1000 with the Pioneer sx-1250, it sounded good but the Pioneer Hpm-100 sounded so much better, so no surprise really. But when the NS-1000 were teamed up with the Luxman m-05c-c-05 combo the result was so much better. Ive also used a pair of NS-1000x which is an even better mix. I've got a pair of NS-2000 on their way here, can't wait to hear how they sound.

My ideal goal would be a pair of Accuphase M-1000 mono blocks with NS-2000 which are at 6ohms. All I need to do is find a pair of M-1000.:banana::banana:
 
There are, of course, many good amps, but I've always found the VFET Sony TA-5650/NS-1000M combo to be a match made in heaven. :thmbsp:
 
I have yamaha ns 1000,and ns 690 mark 1.
Both speakers are very remarkable and really worth for vantage.
I have tried alot of solid states and pre power combos.
The best results i get from Yamaha A-2000 stereo integrated.
That amp is 130watts class A operation at full load, separate power supplies for pre-and main amplification sections,huge capacitors worth of 230,000 micro f.
Specifically this amp has a Richness button on its front,its a special circuit with 3 variable levels of adjustment,dedicated special low frequency response for ns 1000 and ns 2000.
http://www.niji.or.jp/home/k-nisi/a-2000.htm

hopefully this link will work for you.
 
i have ns 1000 and ns 690 mark 1.
both are remarkable and worthy in keeping vintage.
I have tried a lot of solid states integrated,as well as pre-power combo from 100 to 250watts/ch at 8ohm.
So far the best results i get from Yamaha A2000 stereo integrated Amp made in 1983-1987.
This amp has class A operation at full load so its an entire class A.
Circuit design is very good,non-feed back.
It has two power supplies,one for pre and one for main section, accompanied by 220,000 micro F capacitance.you will not see this huge bank of caps in just 130w/ch at 8ohm solidstate.
It has a richness button at front,and has variable 3 points adjustments for richness.
This is a special circuit and provide special low frequencies dedicated to ns1000 and ns2000,because these models low drivers has the tendency to respond with these frequencies.(note that this is not like a loudness).
I expect this link will help you aswell.
http://www.niji.or.jp/home/k-nisi/a-2000.htm
Take care .
 
Pioneer?

It's reported that the Pioneer M-22 exists but I have never seen one, would this rare, class A battleship sound good with these?

SX-950SX-980 yes I tried my recapped 1250. Concept was better as noted, (450 damping factor may be the reason or not). Best receiver I tried might be the 200 wpc 180microV/s Kenwood KR-9050. Not sure. Certainly the best phono stage for a receiver.

Luxman gear, also mentioned, wonderful. Separates means you can try different preamps which may make a bigger difference than the power amp!

My NS-1000 has a metal grill but it's all fabric covered. Fits in the slot all around the bevelled edge. M version I had was a flat standoff with 4 inset mount contacts.

Have seen non-M with metal mesh woofer protectors--replacements are easier to find that way. No they don't interfere with sound. They don't resonate.

The non-M has lower bass but only with the right amp. Most amps you can't tell (But you can tell when you pick them up… :sigh: ).

Arkay is right these 1000s will reveal problems, consider them sensitive diagnostic instruments. :thmbsp:
 
The bigger the amplifier the better.:thmbsp:Headroom..:thmbsp:
 
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