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RobRoy said:
True, but that particular part of the american culture was not all that diverse back then, compared to now. I was there.
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As the Bay Area was, it would take a while to understand the distain the different subcultures had for one another. But if you went to the San Jose Convention Center and saw Bill Gates hanging with his buddies of all race, creed and color you’d understand what I mean. The Bay Area wasn’t segregated with the exception of Oakland and Hayward where most of the out of state transplants chose to live. Hayward ended up being a place of Bay Area white flight and home of the Hells Angels in Central California. The area between San Francisco and San Jose has always been and will always be liberal and home to the most multi-racial people in the world.
 
You Mormons got it rough. I thought us Catholics and the Hebrews had it bad, but I occasionally get visits from Mormon "recruiters"--they are well-dressed and wearing their name tags "Elder XXXX" and they look like they haven't even shaved yet--I mean they look like kids.

My partner was raised Christian Scientist which is just another cult like the Vatican, but no doctors or dentists--live or die, if you get sick we'll all pray for you.

The world is an amazing place. Despite all the adversity, we still manage to over-populate it. LOL
 
Djcoolray said:
As the Bay Area was, it would take a while to understand the distain the different subcultures had for one another. But if you went to the San Jose Convention Center and saw Bill Gates hanging with his buddies of all race, creed and color you’d understand what I mean. The Bay Area wasn’t segregated with the exception of Oakland and Hayward where most of the out of state transplants chose to live. Hayward ended up being a place of Bay Area white flight and home of the Hells Angels in Central California. The area between San Francisco and San Jose has always been and will always be liberal and home to the most multi-racial people in the world.
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I moved from Seattle to Kentucky 8 years ago. The racial diversity in Seattle compared to Kentucky was amazing. However, the thinking was less diverse. Much less so. In fact, that is one of the reasons I left.

It's interesting. Here I live near a small town with a Christian university. It has a lot of foreign students from all over the world - Even Venezuela. But the difference between here and Seattle (Or SF) is that there is also diversity of opinion. And all opinions are given freedom of expression. It's a breath of fresh air.

At the end of the day, your right to be who you are, regarding your beliefs, is the most important aspect of a "diverse" hometown than any other. I think it is even more important than racial, sexual or any other kind of outward diversity. That kind of diversity only celebrates the shell you occupy, not the person within.
 
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Hey @savatage1973, 20 years is a long courtship, do you think you and your partner will be tying the knot someday?

My wife and I have been married for 35 years and I for one, can recommend it. :deal:
 
Route 66 said:
Hey @savatage1973, 20 years is a long courtship, do you think you and your partner will be tying the knot someday?

My wife and I have been married for 35 years and I for one, can recommend it. :deal:
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I concur, marriage is awesome. 32 yrs with the love of my life, I miss her dearly. But life moves on, now with my current love 7yrs now. She's disabled and her discount prescription drug plan precludes our making things legal, maybe someday our society will be progressive enough that we don't have to bankrupt ourselves because of love.
 
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savatage1973 said:
That's a "no-brainer". Gay or straight, PDA (public display of affection) is not something I consider appropriate for anyone. I don't care who you are or who you're with, I don't need to see that--get a room.
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Now see, this I'm not on board with, being in love and showing it gives our children the right message, "Love is awesome". My lady and I hold hands all the time, I often kiss her on the back of the neck when she least expects it, she always gets a bit of a thrill from it, this makes me happy.
 
savatage1973 said:
IDK--maybe when we actually hit 20 in October. We already have durable power of attorney over one another, so we kind of did it before they even made it legal, but it makes a good excuse for one hell of a party.
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On our 20th, my wife and I had a party. But we were the only ones invited. :D
 
Grenadeslio said:
Now see, this I'm not on board with, being in love and showing it gives our children the right message, "Love is awesome". My lady and I hold hands all the time, I often kiss her on the back of the neck when she least expects it, she always gets a bit of a thrill from it, this makes me happy.
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I'm sorry--let me clarify. There is love and affection, and then there is LOVE AND AFFECTION which should be behind closed doors. Just don't be "doing IT" on my sofa while I'm still sitting here. That's all I meant, and I'm sure you have seen people take it a little "too far" out in public.
 
savatage1973 said:
That's a "no-brainer". Gay or straight, PDA (public display of affection) is not something I consider appropriate for anyone. I don't care who you are or who you're with, I don't need to see that--get a room.
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Yes, I have seen the extremes..
It kinda depends, there's a fairly broad demarcation between gestures of affection and open dry-humping ones' object d'amore'.
 
savatage1973 said:
That's a "no-brainer". Gay or straight, PDA (public display of affection) is not something I consider appropriate for anyone. I don't care who you are or who you're with, I don't need to see that--get a room.
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I think what bothered me about it is the father seemed to assume that if his son and his partner came to visit, they would be all over each other. If his son was in a heterosexual relationship, I doubt he would have said that.

By the way, my wife and I are celebrating 45 years this June. We found that trusting each other and being honest has been a good formula. We each have our own lives and interests, but we always try to sit down each day and talk about what is going on in our worlds and work out any problems that come up before they get too big.
 
bobsvinyl said:
I think what bothered me about it is the father seemed to assume that if his son and his partner came to visit, they would be all over each other.
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This just brings back HUGE memories of the first time that my partner met my father. I have kind of sketched out my family background, so you know where that is. He was so paranoid about meeting my father. We all got together at my sister's new house to do the landscaping. I am 5' 10-11" and 165 lbs--my partner is 6' 4" and 280 lbs. My father shook his hand, and then said "well you're a big boy--go move that stuff". Nuff' said, that was it. A truly surreal moment that neither of us will ever forget.
 
Pio1980 said:
The phrase "I'll have what shes having" comes to mind as past the cut-off.
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I don't know if you remember the "Shoe" comic strips, but I still have a T-shirt (from 30 years ago) with him being at Roz's bar with the caption "I'll have what the gentleman on the floor is having".
 
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