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Kanye West...the World's Greatest Rock Star

RamblinE said:
Still wondering why leaving it at "I don't like it" isn't enough for people.


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Sorry for my rant, I see kids saving up for months to go to a festival and then be treated so poorly by an artist who is getting paid more in 2 hours then they have made in their lives...he is not genuine and is a poser
 
USA Soccer said:
Sorry for my rant, I see kids saving up for months to go to a festival and then be treated so poorly by an artist who is getting paid more in 2 hours then they have made in their lives...he is not genuine and is a poser
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Treating fans poorly is not that new of a phenomenon. Seems like every time Guns and Roses announces a tour thousands of people shell out seriously big bucks to see them play a crowded shitty arena venue. Only to be disappointed by Axle Rose because a lot of tour dates, if not most of them, were canceled on account of him.


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Kanye keeps on THREATENING & Fussin' that he's gonna "Leave the USA" for various & sundry reasons, most boiling down to the fact that he's an extremely SPOILED, insecure JERK/BRAT... All I can say to that is, "Well, Big Boy, DON'T let the door Hit ya where the Good Lord Split ya.." And, PLEASE, round up as many of yr worthless POS In-Laws as you can, & take 'em with you... ESPECIALLY yr NEW Mother-In-Law, Caitlyn... Methinks we've heard ENOUGH from/about the Kartrashians to last us the next 3 lifetimes..
 
It certainly seems that Kanye is the most divisive artist to have been discussed here in the music forum of AK.
 
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It certainly seems that Kanye is the most divisive artist to have been discussed here in the music forum of AK.
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Actually I think we are mostly in agreement. Lol. We all think he's a dick.

It's not often that a star has such a bad personality that it overshadows the art. Not exactly the same but similar result is Lindsey Lohan. She has more of a substance abuse problem and needs help but in general it's the same. Her shitty behavior ruined her. Let's see how long it takes for Kanye to fall off the arena circuit.


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SSaxdude said:
Again, saying he has little talent is your opinion. It seems like most people who hold this opinion of Kanye simply don't like rap/hip hop, and/or have ever listened to an entire album of his.

As stated earlier in the thread, it's hypocritical to discredit his talent simply for his behavior while listening to other artists who have done terrible things too. And in comparison to other artists, his behavior is tame. He never killed a person due to drunk driving (Vince Neil of Motley Crue), he never had sex with a minor (Anthony Kiedis of RHCP), he never introduced a "virgin" (someone who has never done heroin before) to heroin (Bradley Nowell of Sublime).
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My opinion is that he is a pampered asshole who has some linguistic skills, but that doesn't make him an "artist", it makes him a milquetoast poet.

Man, if you like his music, fine, that's okay, nobody is saying it isn't.

Hey, I love Geto Boys, and I don't call them "artists". Just like the phrase "diva" is routinely bandied about, tho few deserve that title. Maria Callas, anyone? Diva. Aretha Franklin? Diva. J-Lo? Uh, no.


As for the three you mention, yes, all reprehensible behavior, and the only one I would say had real talent out of that bunch was Bradley. Keidis' biography I read made me hate the man. Total junkie.
 
Sandy G said:
Kanye keeps on THREATENING & Fussin' that he's gonna "Leave the USA" for various & sundry reasons, most boiling down to the fact that he's an extremely SPOILED, insecure JERK/BRAT... All I can say to that is, "Well, Big Boy, DON'T let the door Hit ya where the Good Lord Split ya.." And, PLEASE, round up as many of yr worthless POS In-Laws as you can, & take 'em with you... ESPECIALLY yr NEW Mother-In-Law, Caitlyn... Methinks we've heard ENOUGH from/about the Kartrashians to last us the next 3 lifetimes..
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Check the sources on that...all far conservative sites. Not trustworthy media outlets. Nor was he actually quoted as saying he wanted to leave the U.S., just that he was fed up with the racism he experienced.
 
onwardjames said:
Hey, I love Geto Boys, and I don't call them "artists". Just like the phrase "diva" is routinely bandied about, tho few deserve that title. Maria Callas, anyone? Diva. Aretha Franklin? Diva. J-Lo? Uh, no.
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I agree about the Geto Boys, well that I love them too. Their self titled album is definitely one of my favorite rap albums ever. I would still call them artists. The way I see it, I can't think of criteria that distinguishes music as performed by an artist or not. It's all just different ways of expression. Even something extremely repetitive as Wesley Willis' music is art. While he didn't understand music theory or really know how to play an instrument, what he performed was his sincerest form of expression that he was capable of.

Unfortunately this means I also have to consider Justin Bieber to be an artist. It's a compromise I have to make.
 
Kanye v. Ted Nugent?
Who is the biggest a#$%ol*?
We know who the richest one is, but who is the most divisive within the AK community?
 
leesonic said:
Let's not forget what he does. He steals other peoples music, and talks over it. Search YouTube for "Kanye West samples" and you'll see all the proof you need. He doesn't have an original bone in his body, unless Kim dons a strap-on and gives him one. Some say he's a great producer? Well, we've already had a post saying all he does as a producer is sits in a chair and watches an engineer do all the work. Have you heard the Kanye Wuss remix of "Billy Jean" on the Thriller re-release? All he did was add a drum machine over it, I could have done that with a drum machine I built back in the late 1980s.

Regarding my comment of "talking" over the music. Rap is a musical art form that some people might get, and some might not. Some people might debate that taking a photograph is much easier than painting a painting. Does that make photography any less of an art form? Of course not. Some rap is great, listen to Sugar Hill Gang's "Rappers Delight". Every word they say is on the beat of the music, and the music was actually re-recorded rather than just sampled. Some modern rappers, it is literally is just talking over the music, with no feel for the rhythm. Someone is going to tell me that's a certain style, or flow, I call it laziness. And sampling? Listen to the intricacies of something like "Paul's Boutique" by the Beastie Boys. There are so many samples going on here, it's hard to even list.

And here's my standard "too old and too white" defense :

Call me too old and too white, maybe I just don't understand modern hip-hop. If it was any other genre of music, it would be called pop. Back when I was young, I used to stay up until 3am, listening to a weak FM signal broadcast by a pirate radio station in London. Sometimes the DJs would show up late, sometimes they wouldn't show up at all, sometimes the station would be raided and their equipment seized. But when they did a show, it was good music, a combination of early hip-hop and what we used to call Electro Funk. Run-DMC, Newcleus, Sugar Hill Gang, West Street Mob, Hashim, Grandmaster Flash. Even Jazz stalwarts like Herbie Hancock ("Rockit") and Tom Browne ("Rockin' Radio") got in on the act. I'd have to save up my allowance, and go to record stores like Groove Records in the most seediest parts of London (Soho, a red light district) to buy some of these. Now, the Playstation generation can download the latest rap song to their iPhone, or paste a link onto their Facebook page...

Lee.
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So when Elvis, The Stones and The Beatles 'stole' from black musicians back in the day I guess it was and still is OK. But when a black artist 'steals' samples for his use to create new music it is not OK. Huh.

Whether or not you agree West is good or great in your mind does not matter. He is talented and extremely smart. His first two or three albums are pretty damn good and are well worth a listen if you get a chance.
 
SSaxdude said:
Check the sources on that...all far conservative sites. Not trustworthy media outlets. Nor was he actually quoted as saying he wanted to leave the U.S., just that he was fed up with the racism he experienced.
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Well...I have an opinion about what drives him, you can provide what you might think is why he gets so much attention. The racism he has experienced? Racism drives him. He is racist to the core and it's reflected in everything he does. Black racists don't have to explain... it's just 'understood'... you know, the man and all that. Taylor Swift thing... what's your explanation.. that ones easy.
 
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