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Let's talk about Artificial Intelligence. Scared yet?

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Mystic said:
Perhaps elevating disadvantages to advantages. Or is it relegating advantages to disadvantages?
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Being a decent human being, you would say that, and you'd mean it.

Nah, man. Can any of us fail to see a rich guy sliding an extra 1000 bucks to the geneticist, bribing for a bump in intelligence, height, and an extra 3'' where it counts for his unborn son?

But I surely hope genetic issues (cerebral palsy, Down's Syndrome, etc) would be fixable. I just don't see any money in cures right now, much less in the future.

Capitalists gonna capitalize. I sure hope I'm wrong.

I just realized how much your quote made me think of Harrison Bergeron. It's a short read, but hit me hard as a 12 year old kid, hits me harder now as a 50 year old man.

https://archive.org/stream/HarrisonBergeron/Harrison Bergeron_djvu.txt
 
No one in the established Trucking sector took self driving seriously when the media was covering it a few years ago. It struck a chord with investment minded people who would like trucks to get out of the way. Those start ups received a lot of capital which is exactly what was intended.

Since the initial push the largest freight broker in the nation CH Robinson has taken an interest in Waymo.
Which is somewhat concerning because I used to hate running their loads always a pita. I no longer deal with brokers.

Their are a small percentage of trucking runs that could utilize autonomous vehicles now. Interstate only Both warehouses close to the interstate would be about it. Bad weather unlikely. Night maybe not. What I do for a living :no:. I had to back in between a pole and a building recently and it was so tight I took pictures. Inches on both sides.
No way the tech is ready but eventually it may be.
Unfortunately deleted the pic.

Someday all cars and trucks wil likely be mandated to communicate with one another going down the road and self driving cars will be a reality. Going to be a while. When Insurance companies get involved the timeline will probably accelerate.

The Tesla model of self driving is impressive really.
I am still not sure any self driving qualifies as true A.I. at least not the version that exists today.

I am Not scared of AI... Just have to wait and see what happens.
 
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onwardjames said:
Being a decent human being, you would say that, and you'd mean it.

Nah, man. Can any of us fail to see a rich guy sliding an extra 1000 bucks to the geneticist, bribing for a bump in intelligence, height, and an extra 3'' where it counts for his unborn son?

But I surely hope genetic issues (cerebral palsy, Down's Syndrome, etc) would be fixable. I just don't see any money in cures right now, much less in the future.

Capitalists gonna capitalize. I sure hope I'm wrong.

I just realized how much your quote made me think of Harrison Bergeron. It's a short read, but hit me hard as a 12 year old kid, hits me harder now as a 50 year old man.

https://archive.org/stream/HarrisonBergeron/Harrison Bergeron_djvu.txt
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A great movie was made of that, Harrison Bergeron. I always look for a copy of it, mostly VHS, not sure about DVD. I think used ones are kind of expensive. Tells an/the story in an interesting way. I've never found one in the wild but rented one when it was current.
 
hjames said:
Maybe AI, applied carefully, could have some beneficial uses.
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Well, considering the entities that own most of the advanced AI systems out there I'm not gonna hold my breath. Mostly they seem to be focusing on military and security applications, which is somewhat frightening; google in particular is licensing it's AI engines to various world militaries lately, going so far as to contract it now without any oversight or application limitations. They've come a long way from 'do no evil' days...
 
titanstats said:
Well, considering the entities that own most of the advanced AI systems out there I'm not gonna hold my breath. Mostly they seem to be focusing on military and security applications, which is somewhat frightening; google in particular is licensing it's AI engines to various world militaries lately, going so far as to contract it now without any oversight or application limitations. They've come a long way from 'do no evil' days...
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Military, security, and securing -- i.e., control -- applications, is what I'm mostly seeing and to which friends in those three-letter agencies allude.
 
Mystic said:
Military, security, and securing -- i.e., control -- applications, is what I'm mostly seeing and to which friends in those three-letter agencies allude.
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Control, control -- facial recognition is a killer, and basically perfect. Those few protests in Beijing last week, the police did nothing, just stayed and watched; later that evening they just went by their homes and rounded up the protesters that they considered over the line. No fuss, no muss, nobody sees. Yes, the application could help so many people in so many ways, but nobody is doing that.
 
Mystic said:
Military, security, and securing -- i.e., control -- applications, is what I'm mostly seeing and to which friends in those three-letter agencies allude.
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Make no mistake about it. That is where technology is developed, always was always will be, no other interests have funding, resources and organization. Benefits are headlined for PR while weapon aspect continues development and application. Science applied, universal tool, a window on a bigger picture. It's a fox hole situation in rapid development. I'll stop at that point but know there is war coming, all this is the sound of gunfire over the horizon. Not an outlier, the thread is about AI and directly applies.
 
When current A.I. is asked to come up with of what Burning Man Festival would look like if it was held in 1963. It brings up interesting questions on whether Mark Day created it or is just responsible for making the suggestion.

There's obvious irregularities, three legged people. Interesting though IMHO.

Burning Man 2.jpg Burning man 1963.jpg Burning Man 1.jpg Burning Man 4.jpg


And an example of A.I. given thousands of hours of late night lawyer infomercials and programmed to write a script.

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Johnno_Oz said:
When current A.I. is asked to come up with of what Burning Man Festival would look like if it was held in 1963. It brings up interesting questions on whether Mark Day created it or is just responsible for making the suggestion.

There's obvious irregularities, three legged people. Interesting though IMHO.

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And an example of A.I. given thousands of hours of late night lawyer infomercials and programmed to write a script.

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The lawyer part Seems like a land dreamed up by Philip K. Dick.
Wacky.
The current prediction that High Schoolers are going to use AI to write their English Papers may be a bit premature.
 
Crazy Gnome said:
https://reason.com/volokh/2020/10/1...-obtained-using-facial-recognition-software/#
Facial Recognition is not admissible evidence in court in the US.
Would require more evidence to prosecute.
Not so scary for most people then.

The protestors in China were contacted afterwards because of cellphone tracking. Which is not AI as far as I know. Wouldn't be difficult to figure out how to deal with that If needed I reckon.
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The ability to track people and make connections has been developing for years - it's called Activity Based Intelligence. AI will take this to a whole different level; for good? That'll be the selling point incentive.
 
Erik Tracy said:
The ability to track people and make connections has been developing for years - it's called Activity Based Intelligence. AI will take this to a whole different level; for good? That'll be the selling point incentive.
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My point is that many just assume the worst will happen. A Paranoid Dystopian world view.
This does all the heavy lifting for any entities that would like to control others. The illusion of control is actually stronger than what tech is available.
 
I saw a message that was credited to AI but I had my doubts. They are probably going to have to come up with a way to watermark or identity it in some way.
 
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